Bouncing Owl Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Just now, billyblack said: Thats what i thought That’s how I interpret it, BB! If premier doesn’t finish, they will have votes on whether they relegate teams and how many teams they will want in the premier next season. My guess would be, no relegation and 20 teams and there working be anything the championship could do about it. If premier finishes then there will be relegation and there will be meetings and votes to see how promotion/relegation would work for the championship and also further down the pyramid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Bouncing Owl said: That’s how I interpret it, BB! If premier doesn’t finish, they will have votes on whether they relegate teams and how many teams they will want in the premier next season. My guess would be, no relegation and 20 teams and there working be anything the championship could do about it. Could get messy "EFL chairman Parry has fired off a clear message that the lawyers will be sent in if his clubs are denied promotion due to a closed-shop agreement by Premier League bosses. Parry said: “I think you can expect the lawyers are going to get wealthy if that happens. “There would be a degree of outrage, varying degrees of outrage from a number of clubs in the Championship. “It would be a breach of the tripartite agreement between us, the Premier League and the Football Association and I suspect the FA would have a position on it as well. “The safe answer to that is it would get very messy because our expectation is that there would be three clubs promoted from the Championship.” Edited May 10, 2020 by rickygoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, rickygoo said: Could get messy "EFL chairman Parry has fired off a clear message that the lawyers will be sent in if his clubs are denied promotion due to a closed-shop agreement by Premier League bosses. Parry said: “I think you can expect the lawyers are going to get wealthy if that happens. “There would be a degree of outrage, varying degrees of outrage from a number of clubs in the Championship. “It would be a breach of the tripartite agreement between us, the Premier League and the Football Association and I suspect the FA would have a position on it as well. “The safe answer to that is it would get very messy because our expectation is that there would be three clubs promoted from the Championship.” Well, if they don’t relegate teams, it also goes against the spirit of the game as well. I also can’t see 23 teams in the premier next season as well given the current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Bouncing Owl said: Well, if they don’t relegate teams, it also goes against the spirit of the game as well. I also can’t see 23 teams in the premier next season as well given the current situation. What spirit of the game? that went with the formation of the PL, Man Utd not playing in the FA cup and everything that has been going on for the last 25 years or so If the PL don't want relegation, and that could happen whether or not the league is finished, we will see if the PL, FA or EPL have the deepest pockets in a legal challenge, and I can see only one winner there as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bouncing Owl said: Well, if they don’t relegate teams, it also goes against the spirit of the game as well. I also can’t see 23 teams in the premier next season as well given the current situation. This is going to get very messy, I believe the EPL will do whatever as long as it completes and it gets it coin. I'd expect some sort of money deal to be done, to smooth this over. The FA/EFL/EPL have no problem with weeing all over the sanctity of the game as we've already witnessed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 35 minutes ago, Maddogbob said: weeing all over the sanctity of the game To be fair that went as soon as teams turned pro in the 19th Century 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 5 hours ago, BIG D said: A third Brighton player has tested positive https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11741/11986015/coronavirus-third-brighton-player-tests-positive-chief-executive-paul-barber-confirms Closing everything down and is not going to make it disappear and so inevitably there are going test + in every hospital, school, college, office, factory, site and football club across the country...not great but that is the new reality that people are going to have to deal with sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, kobayashi said: Closing everything down and is not going to make it disappear and so inevitably there are going test + in every hospital, school, college, office, factory, site and football club across the country...not great but that is the new reality that people are going to have to deal with sooner or later. i agree, but if a players tests positive a few days after a game then everyone who was in the stadium during the last game will have to self isolate for 14 days So that's no football for two teams for 14 days, so that will stop the season being completed before the 30th June unless two teams play the kids for two weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 37 minutes ago, kobayashi said: Closing everything down and is not going to make it disappear and so inevitably there are going test + in every hospital, school, college, office, factory, site and football club across the country...not great but that is the new reality that people are going to have to deal with sooner or later. You’re right, would you have people going to one place en masse, risking people’s (people who haven’t even attended) lives just to watch sport ? For me it’s about what is essential, is there anything more important than life. Please, no Bill Shankly quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mcguigan Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, rickygoo said: Could get messy "EFL chairman Parry has fired off a clear message that the lawyers will be sent in if his clubs are denied promotion due to a closed-shop agreement by Premier League bosses. Parry said: “I think you can expect the lawyers are going to get wealthy if that happens. “There would be a degree of outrage, varying degrees of outrage from a number of clubs in the Championship. “It would be a breach of the tripartite agreement between us, the Premier League and the Football Association and I suspect the FA would have a position on it as well. “The safe answer to that is it would get very messy because our expectation is that there would be three clubs promoted from the Championship.” If there’s no relegation from the PL, there’s 3 lots of first year parachute payments (about £140m) that wouldn’t be paid out. A little financial sweetener to the Championship to stop the lawyers getting involved. Edited May 10, 2020 by Mcguigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWEDFM Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Shameful Money money money that is all they care about Season should have been voided a month back and completly written off. Dragging this out has shown them up for what they are France and Holland have made the right call. Yes certain clubs will throw a tantrum but health of the players/managers is paramount. I know they earn millions but at the end of the day they are human beings and by playing they are putting their familes at risk I would be in favour of any player refusing to step foot on a pitch for the rest of the year. Imagine if they caught the virus and passed it on to their family. There would be hell to pay Football is secondary right now and the sooner the EPL and EFL open their eyes and see that the better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 52 minutes ago, the third man said: i agree, but if a players tests positive a few days after a game then everyone who was in the stadium during the last game will have to self isolate for 14 days So that's no football for two teams for 14 days, so that will stop the season being completed before the 30th June unless two teams play the kids for two weeks It could be worse than that. If a player starts with symptoms on a Sunday after playing on Saturday & is tested positive then if he's also played in midweek prior to the Saturday then the team he's played in midweek could have to isolate plus that teams opposition on the Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, IWEDFM said: Season should have been voided a month back and completly written off. Holland did that - the French haven't voided, neither have the Belgians. Every business is doing what football is. From hairdressers, to restaurants, department stores to garden centres. They're all hoping there's a Government approved way to open because this is a threat to the existence of a lot of businesses. The Government, for whatever reason, seems to have been encouraging sport to find a way out of this. And the football plans have been reported in minute detail because there are hundreds of sports journalists out there with nothing else to do. Debenhams, John Lewis. British Airways etc will all be doing the same - they just don't have the same slightly obsessive scrutiny to cope with. I think it's incredibly unlikely that they'll get going - the German experience will probably, and hopefully, scupper it. But in the meantime, especially given the potential legal wrangling, it doesn't surprise me they are considering all possibilities. The EPL and EFL are far from alone when it comes to European Leagues hoping to play on. Without money, like every other business, professional sport will collapse. Every club has to pay their players, Hillsborough and every other ground need to be maintained and there are multi-million pound lawsuits being prepared as we write I imagine. It's a nightmare and no surprise they are scrambling around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 42 minutes ago, IWEDFM said: Shameful Money money money that is all they care about Season should have been voided a month back and completly written off. Dragging this out has shown them up for what they are France and Holland have made the right call. Yes certain clubs will throw a tantrum but health of the players/managers is paramount. I know they earn millions but at the end of the day they are human beings and by playing they are putting their familes at risk I would be in favour of any player refusing to step foot on a pitch for the rest of the year. Imagine if they caught the virus and passed it on to their family. There would be hell to pay Football is secondary right now and the sooner the EPL and EFL open their eyes and see that the better That’s all fair enough but they should all give up their wages until the end of the year as well then. Have to be fair about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 4 hours ago, apswfcowl said: Don't come on here talking common sense!!!! (Plus that would mean Leeds go up!) Thanks, I think. At least we'd get to see them get battered every week like the Pigs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 3 hours ago, billyblack said: Wheres that decision in the public domain? I havent seen it Doesn't mean it hasn't happened. I'm assuming that's what the clubs voted for with the EFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 3 hours ago, billyblack said: How can championship vote on promotion if PL want to stay at 20 clubs? Read the post again. He said Champ clubs would have to decide how to award promotion IF the Prem completed their season, in which case the bottom 3 would be set for relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Brommers said: Read the post again. He said Champ clubs would have to decide how to award promotion IF the Prem completed their season, in which case the bottom 3 would be set for relegation. They might not relegate clubs even if they finish the season, that's one of the trade offs being discussed if they agree to play behind closed doors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWEDFM Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, LondonOwl313 said: That’s all fair enough but they should all give up their wages until the end of the year as well then. Have to be fair about it Yes, I agree. It's not as if they need the money. Scrap football and scrap wages for the remainder of 2020 I know it's easier said than done and there would be an outcry if it happened but it would ensure the health of players and help smaller clubs stay afloat Edited May 10, 2020 by IWEDFM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, Brommers said: Read the post again. He said Champ clubs would have to decide how to award promotion IF the Prem completed their season, in which case the bottom 3 would be set for relegation. And that's where the legal battles begin, why should Barnsley accept relegation if they haven't finished the season when they can still stay up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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