Brommers Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 19 hours ago, Plonk said: If the league can be finished safely, then do it. The next promble is time limits, with contracts, next season, EUROs etc. So if it can be done safely in a suitable time frame, then do it. if those things can’t happen, that’s when the big decisions start. for me, I would void the season, because anything else just doesn’t sit right, be it ppg, current standing or halfway standing. All have merits....but which ever is chosen will result in legal action by who ever suffers. Given the massive argument is about lost money, what if compensation were offered, so Leeds don’t go up but don’t suffer financially for not doing so. ultimately it will be decided by the EPL, because if they decide there’s no relegation, then there’s no promotion. So if they decide that they should compensate the top end championship clubs on a sliding scale. As has been pointed out a number if times, there's no perfect solution. But if fixtures aren't completed which is looking more than likely, I'd give promotion to teams in automatic spaces but no relegation. Would only result in 2 extra teams in Prem. Then readjust by relegating 1 extra team per season until numbers back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, rickygoo said: The EFL is essentially the clubs. Many football clubs have been run terribly over the last decade and more so it’s no surprise. Presumably Parry with all his experience was brought in to remedy that but then gets hit by the biggest crisis to hit society since the Second World War. Lower division clubs will need bailing out but where does that cash come from. Most of the bigger clubs live hand to mouth - Chansiri’s early early bird has turned into a masterpiece of strategy. I don’t see that they can or will pass money downwards. So that leaves the PL and the government. Fat chance. Parry claimed there would be a £200M black hole in EFL finances. Simon Jordan pointed out last week that if Prem players gave 33% of their wages for 3 months (or similar, I forget the specifics but the principal is the same) that would be enough to bail out the lower leagues. Will never happen and you could easily argue why should they. It does however highlight what is wrong with football, far too much of footballs wealth is in the players bank accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Brommers said: As has been pointed out a number if times, there's no perfect solution. But if fixtures aren't completed which is looking more than likely, I'd give promotion to teams in automatic spaces but no relegation. Would only result in 2 extra teams in Prem. Then readjust by relegating 1 extra team per season until numbers back to normal. But the PL don't want an extra two teams, they actually have said they would like 18 so you would need their agreement, and agreement of every other team that could get promoted, but aren't, cant see it happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) Best thing to happen is for Bielsa to wake up after falling asleep in the Leeds dressing room, stumble across Luke Ayling taking a shower and realise season 2019/20 was all a dream just like Pam did in Dallas all those years ago? Edited May 10, 2020 by Great Big Galaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 34 minutes ago, the third man said: cant see a moral argument when it could potentially cost lives I think that's the moral argument - i.e. it's not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 46 minutes ago, bladeshater said: Social distancing is there for a reason how can sportsman be exempt Not saying it's right, but they'd only be able to play after a successful Covid test. In which case why no goal celebrations etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, the third man said: But the PL don't want an extra two teams, they actually have said they would like 18 so you would need their agreement, and agreement of every other team that could get promoted, but aren't, cant see it happening Pretty sure all the teams in the bottom half would be in favour, saves them this season and potentially reduces their chances of relegation for next 2 years as will be 2 extra bang average teams in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroggattOwls Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, BIG D said: A third Brighton player has tested positive https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11741/11986015/coronavirus-third-brighton-player-tests-positive-chief-executive-paul-barber-confirms Hmmm Most convenient...... have they announced which players yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroggattOwls Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 54 minutes ago, bladeshater said: Social distancing is there for a reason how can sportsman be exempt Depends whats being allowed from tonight. Most infections seem to occur on public transport, homes and clubs / indoor places. According to the latest data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, the third man said: But the PL don't want an extra two teams, they actually have said they would like 18 so you would need their agreement, and agreement of every other team that could get promoted, but aren't, cant see it happening I agree. Ive mentioned this on other threads - if the premier league can’t complete the season due to players being infected and squads going into self isolation, then I see that their won’t be promotion or relegation throughout the leagues. Premier clubs will vote for no relegation and to keep the competition to 20 clubs next season. I’m sure that 70% of the clubs will vote for this. If the premier can complete the season which I’m sure they will want to do given there is £750m up for grabs, then relegation will apply and then the championship can decide how promotion is worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Brommers said: Pretty sure all the teams in the bottom half would be in favour, saves them this season and potentially reduces their chances of relegation for next 2 years as will be 2 extra bang average teams in the league. And gives them an extra year of prem money guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 53 minutes ago, the third man said: cant see a moral argument when it could potentially cost lives Me neither Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Brommers said: Pretty sure all the teams in the bottom half would be in favour, saves them this season and potentially reduces their chances of relegation for next 2 years as will be 2 extra bang average teams in the league. But the ones at the top, who rule the roost, don't, so I think they would win the argument and they would have to divide the money more ways as well Edited May 10, 2020 by the third man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, the third man said: But the ones at the top, who rule the roost, don't, so I think they would win the argument and they would have to divide the money more ways as well But currently it's the bottom half teams putting up objections for completing season mainly because they will try anything to avoid relegation. So this may help as a compromise to get them all on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apswfcowl Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Brommers said: As has been pointed out a number if times, there's no perfect solution. But if fixtures aren't completed which is looking more than likely, I'd give promotion to teams in automatic spaces but no relegation. Would only result in 2 extra teams in Prem. Then readjust by relegating 1 extra team per season until numbers back to normal. Don't come on here talking common sense!!!! (Plus that would mean Leeds go up!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Brommers said: Yes they are, they've taken the decision they can't afford to fulfil their remaining fixtures without any matchday income. Wheres that decision in the public domain? I havent seen it published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Bouncing Owl said: I agree. Ive mentioned this on other threads - if the premier league can’t complete the season due to players being infected and squads going into self isolation, then I see that their won’t be promotion or relegation throughout the leagues. Premier clubs will vote for no relegation and to keep the competition to 20 clubs next season. I’m sure that 70% of the clubs will vote for this. If the premier can complete the season which I’m sure they will want to do given there is £750m up for grabs, then relegation will apply and then the championship can decide how promotion is worked out. How can championship vote on promotion if PL want to stay at 20 clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, billyblack said: How can championship vote on promotion if PL want to stay at 20 clubs? They can’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bouncing Owl said: They can’t. Thats what i thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 4 hours ago, bladeshater said: Social distancing is there for a reason how can sportsman be exempt It cant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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