ponym110 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Time to go, it happens to all players but some like Loovens or Semedo can carry on because of their influence and leadership. Lees despite being made Captain has never had that and now his legs seem to have gone. A fantastic servant to the club in his time but should only be used in an emergency from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 He'll drop down to league 1 or 2 when his contract expires. No shame in that. Happens to lots of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Taken a bit of time to let the result and performance sink in....... I thought Lee's looked like a bloke we'd dragged in from a pub team, what's more, one that had put away ten pints the night before. Absolutely dire, a calamitous performance that no manager could mitigate against. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Just seen the highlights Makes painful viewing, genuinely felt sorry for him. No idea what’s gone wrong he was so consistent during his first 3 years here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 If I remember rightly, he fell to pieces at Leeds too. Psychological issues maybe and a fresh start needed somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 To think that at one point, we could have got £7 million to £10 million for this fella when balancing the books would have gone some way to avoiding a plethora of issues we are facing today! Of course, some will call that benefit of hindsight. Others would call it foresight and planning. The latter is a useful commodity to have in business! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said: To think that at one point, we could have got £7 million to £10 million for this fella when balancing the books would have gone some way to avoiding a plethora of issues we are facing today! Of course, some will call that benefit of hindsight. Others would call it foresight and planning. The latter is a useful commodity to have in business! It's not a one off either. Several players should have gone to balance the books, with younger prospects brought in to replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Farrell said: It's not a one off either. Several players should have gone to balance the books, with younger prospects brought in to replace them. Aye, it's what I would call having a strategy. It was not hard to work out even at that time, if we kept on hoarding players on big wages, staying within £39 million losses over three years would become incredibly difficult. Or is that hindsight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 minute ago, ChinaOwl said: Aye, it's what I would call having a strategy. It was not hard to work out even at that time, if we kept on hoarding players on big wages, staying within £39 million losses over three years would become incredibly difficult. Or is that hindsight? Can't really call it hindsight. Surely any business looks at it's books, and projects where it's going to be if it carries on at it's current spend ? It begs the question, does DC do nothing like this at all, and does he just do what he wants, with no planning whatsoever ? If he trusted someone to do it for him, then surely they need sacking ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: Can't really call it hindsight. Surely any business looks at it's books, and projects where it's going to be if it carries on at it's current spend ? It begs the question, does DC do nothing like this at all, and does he just do what he wants, with no planning whatsoever ? If he trusted someone to do it for him, then surely they need sacking ? Brentford seem to do OK. Perhaps it would be worth doing a little research into why they have nailed down their transfer strategy so well and we seem to do so badly at it? Perhaps we have the wrong people working on the transfer strategy? That could be a good reason to replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said: To think that at one point, we could have got £7 million to £10 million for this fella when balancing the books would have gone some way to avoiding a plethora of issues we are facing today! Of course, some will call that benefit of hindsight. Others would call it foresight and planning. The latter is a useful commodity to have in business! Who offered 7-10 million for lees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 minute ago, 83owl said: Who offered 7-10 million for lees? Fulham, Burnley maybe? Of course, that was press speculation but there was no reason to disbelieve it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1867 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, 83owl said: Who offered 7-10 million for lees? Nobody. Hes never been of that standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackowl1 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Tom Lees is done, he's too slow and gets bullied too easily and gets beaten way too often in the air. He should never be picked ahead of Dominic Iorfa a far better player in the air, on the floor and is far quicker. And as for him being the captain never been a captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said: Fulham, Burnley maybe? Of course, that was press speculation but there was no reason to disbelieve it either. Burnley were in for him for a decent fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 14 hours ago, Lomas613 said: He looks like the tom Lee's from the game v Leeds when we beat them 6-0 and who was CB for Leeds To be fair Lees was subbed at HT in that game when it was 2-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 He looked like he had something wrong with him yesterday. When he nearly gave away a 4th with an awful piece of control and back pass he looked like he was going to be sick. He couldn't run after that. Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandOwl Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Been a good servant but way past his best. Like several others, should be long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
should know better Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, mattitheowl said: He looked like he had something wrong with him yesterday. When he nearly gave away a 4th with an awful piece of control and back pass he looked like he was going to be sick. He couldn't run after that. Most likely the panic setting in and then he couldn't recover his breathing through acute nerves. He didn't want the ball passing to him near the end but we still put him under that pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 He’s been poor for the last couple of seasons at least.... he didn’t look comfortable on the ball all last season and was playing the same silly mistakes and shocking back passes to the keeper. The way he handles the ball like an hot potato... and the bloke couldn’t trap a bag of sand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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