McRightSide Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Junk Smuggler said: Great optimism. Just hope it comes off. What makes you think DC will back the manager to get proper players in? He may have his hands tied. DC has shown numerous times he is willing to back managers. This will be the first time we’re a little free from FFP shackles in 2 years. We can’t affect any possible deduction so I’m not concerned with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, McRightSide said: DC has shown numerous times he is willing to back managers. This will be the first time we’re a little free from FFP shackles in 2 years. We can’t affect any possible deduction so I’m not concerned with that How will we be free ? The next accounts will be worse than the last ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: How will we be free ? The next accounts will be worse than the last ones. Because it’s judged over three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 It’s not inconceivable that we could be relegated after a points deduction, either this season, or more likely next. It’s not just the points deduction, that squad of players who will still be under contract, looks more like a League One squad. It’s likely that we will only be able to strengthen with frees and loans. Of course it’s possible to do it that way, but that won’t be easy, if we are in a minus points situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Because it’s judged over three years. Rolling 3 years though isn’t it? Not a clean slate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Junk Smuggler said: Rolling 3 years though isn’t it? Not a clean slate. Correct. And we have a profit in one of them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOwl Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Can't wait to see the back of em tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Think this is a good thing we need to clear the decks get a lot of fresh faces in with the right attitudes and hungry, I don’t have the list of all out of contract players this summer but what’s important is that our recruitment team as started the process already. We can start the enquiries and we asking to agents. i think it’s important imperative we get the nucleus of our team in before we return to preseason especially before we head off to our training camp. if this squad needs to be turned over as much as it will be ( and it does ) our new look team needs as much time as possible to bed in non of this signing 5-6 players once the season as kicked off then playing catch up right attitude, right people, get them in early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sefton owl Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 hours ago, vulva said: Manager needs sorting first. Monks deal is up in June. Sort of agree.. But equally, monks has had his hands tied financially speaking and you have to say he did well bringing wickam and co in. I think the next few months is massive for him but i think it’s unfair to judge him now, maybe in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, fpowl said: Think this is a good thing we need to clear the decks get a lot of fresh faces in with the right attitudes and hungry, I don’t have the list of all out of contract players this summer but what’s important is that our recruitment team as started the process already. We can start the enquiries and we asking to agents. i think it’s important imperative we get the nucleus of our team in before we return to preseason especially before we head off to our training camp. if this squad needs to be turned over as much as it will be ( and it does ) our new look team needs as much time as possible to bed in non of this signing 5-6 players once the season as kicked off then playing catch up right attitude, right people, get them in early Yes, though one of the problems with just dealing in frees and loans, we are often waiting until the end of the window, especially the loans. That may become more pronounced, if we are trying to do those deals in a minus points situation Edited February 2, 2020 by gurujuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 This season is now a 3 month salvo for Monk and many of the players. Only a very strong finish will save them. Don't be daunted by an overhaul. Recruitment has improved this past year in terms of value for money, so I'd feel more confident of assembling a new younger side with less waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangonrose Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr Farrell said: Why oh why did we give the Play off failures such well paid big contracts ? Maybe because their season-long application was good, and the play-offs are only a couple of games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 minute ago, hangonrose said: Maybe because their season-long application was good, and the play-offs are only a couple of games? They bottled it twice. The last thing they deserved was huge long term contracts at their age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 27 minutes ago, McRightSide said: Correct. And we have a profit in one of them. But still our 2 biggest earners in Westwood and Rhodes who will probably play little part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Just now, Junk Smuggler said: But still our 2 biggest earners in Westwood and Rhodes who will probably play little part. Westwood took a big drop to stay for an extra year. If he’s taken up the 1 year extension it would have been the same money as before. As I said, financially we should be a little more free from FFP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 31 minutes ago, gurujuan said: It’s not inconceivable that we could be relegated after a points deduction, either this season, or more likely next. It’s not just the points deduction, that squad of players who will still be under contract, looks more like a League One squad. It’s likely that we will only be able to strengthen with frees and loans. Of course it’s possible to do it that way, but that won’t be easy, if we are in a minus points situation I’d agree with this I’d also agree with we might have to wait a longer for loans. I’d question having to wait for the frees especially if we start the process now. We want players that buy into the vision and culture of the club these are players that will sign their contracts to be part of it. If they are holding out for better deals or options. Then we either haven’t done enough to convince them to sign or they are not the right character there will be an abundance of frees this summer and we have 5-6 month from now to get this guys signed up ready for pre-season if we are looking at 6-10 players In the summer I’d be hopeful 4-6 of these are in the building for the first day of training like I say 6 month recruitment team get started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, The Horse said: If we get the points deduction this season, am I right in thinking the slate gets wiped clean regards embargoes? Meaning next season we get to go again from square one? If so, then we need to get points on the board sharpish, take the hit this season, stay up and let whichever manager is in place re-build the entire squad sensibly and sustainability. Dont think so no. Pretty sure the 3 year rolling losses thing just carries on doesn't It? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, The Horse said: If we get the points deduction this season, am I right in thinking the slate gets wiped clean regards embargoes? Meaning next season we get to go again from square one? If so, then we need to get points on the board sharpish, take the hit this season, stay up and let whichever manager is in place re-build the entire squad sensibly and sustainability. I think because it's a rolling three years the two years previous comes into play, in the last two years we haven't spent big and also sold the ground, so in reality we should be able to spend, bearing in mind how much we still have to pay with regards to Rhodes etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Noticed that other teams up the top when they’ve signed players offer only 18 month deals not lengthy expensive ones like we offered at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, daleblue said: I think because it's a rolling three years the two years previous comes into play, in the last two years we haven't spent big and also sold the ground, so in reality we should be able to spend, bearing in mind how much we still have to pay with regards to Rhodes etc. We can lose a max £20m in this year's accounts to avoid breaching P&S. That's as things stay the same in terms of ground sale contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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