Suzuki_San Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Beholder said: Like I say I'm thinking about keeping possession - we couldn't keep hold of it tonight. But I acknowledge your counter argument. Yeah, I suppose it's all about how Monk wants to play. Palmer is a little better on the ball, I agree, but Fox gives balance and better crosses (which we need for Fletch). Maybe the 'keeping posession' conundrum would better solved by getting FF on the pitch, moving Harris right and getting Lee involved. Reach needs a rest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Suzuki_San said: ...but we'd miss Fox's natural left foot. In the fiurst half, he put some awesome balls in the box, made overlaps, linked up well and defended great. I am baffled that anyone would say they would prefer Palmer at left back after watching that game. We invited so much pressure on ourselves, and that started at the back. You can't have your cake and eat it, and today we had hardly any possession and struggled to keep it when we had it - not just in defense, admittedly all over the pitch, but this season Palmer has been better at left back and we have looked more assured with Palmer on the left and Odubajo on the right, keeping possession an awful lot better. If we struggled today against that side to keep possession, I am a tad worried about our next game up. I also disagree with those who say Palmer offers little going forwards, this season he has shown a real big change to his game and he does offer a lot offensively. Edited October 22, 2019 by Salmonbones 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) Fox played well tonight but Palmer had a stinker, though to be fair to the lad he's been playing really well for the last 25 games or so. Maybe representing Scotland as well as playing so many games for us has caught up with him a bit. Edited October 22, 2019 by full fathom five Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, jonnyowl said: Fox was man of match! Which match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) Come on though, it wasn't just Palmer who had a bad game today. To a man I think they were all below par. It almost seemed like we were the team in the relegation spot. Edited October 22, 2019 by Salmonbones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 We have 2 average championship full backs in Fox and Palmer. They’ll never be any better than 7/10 on average, however with the wingers we have now we don’t need FBs overlapping as much so they can concentrate on defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Fox deserves his place at present, not so for Palmer after the last few games, who would have thought it after last year, not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike1867 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, Suzuki_San said: Yeah, I suppose it's all about how Monk wants to play. Palmer is a little better on the ball, I agree, but Fox gives balance and better crosses (which we need for Fletch). Maybe the 'keeping posession' conundrum would better solved by getting FF on the pitch, moving Harris right and getting Lee involved. Reach needs a rest! As does Palmer. He's not had the break the others have had. Personally I would have rested him tonight, as I would have done against Cardiff. We now go into the L**ds game with Palmer having played about 7 games in the last month and a round trip to Russia. No wonder he's a bit leggy. I'll get slated but I don't know what "control" Bannan is bringing. It probably seems like my last 5 posts have been getting on his back but his distribution is questionable, his defending suspect. I'd still like to see Hutch, Lee, Luongo start but that looks even less likely now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I prefer tonight’s back 4 I think. I think the lack of possession is an overall issue... not the back 4’s. Lots of fouls and players going down tonight too. I’m not sure Monk wants us to pass people to death either really. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 My mom Fox, thought he was excellent, put some great crosses in too, especially first half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Beholder said: I think it makes us better defensively. But not as good at keeping possession. Makes us more orthodox. I prefer Palmer at left back. He seems to enjoy cutting in and adds a man to the midfield area. Obvs that doesn't happen if he is on the right. Just an observation. Agree with this. Fox is playing well but Palmer's best performances in the last 8 months or so have been on the left. Don't know whether it's a concentration thing and he seems to be more alert when playing left-back and he lets the ball run out or loses control near the touchline far more on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majestic Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 No surprises that we havent conceded any goals from a free man at the back stick since Odubajo has been dropped. Rather have palmer there for defensive solidarity but his crossing is very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko1992 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Out come all the Fox gobblers. MOM have a day off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 hours ago, prowl said: Palmer has been poor at RB. If he keeps playing like that he will get replaced by Odubajo. No idea if he's confused by reverting to RB. Maybe just a loss of form. I can’t agree with that at all. Palmer has not been spectacular but equally, neither has he been poor - he’s been steady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash77 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Fox a solid 7, aggressive, strong with some decent 1st time left footed crosses that palmer cant do at lb, or maybe even rb for that matter! Lb is fox's for now but moses was solid before getting dropped and deserves a run at rb given palmers form imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Fox isn’t good enough but he’s performing to the best of his ability which is all you can ask. Palmer is weirdly better at left back than right back. I still prefer Odubajo and Palmer personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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