vulva Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, McRightSide said: Actually, I think that’s wrong People tend to forget exactly how FEW mistakes Westwood has made in his entire career with us. History tells us he might have a dodgy 3-4 game spell but then barely puts a foot (or hand) wrong for the other 35 Time erodes the memory. Westwood has been a very good keeper, but is prone to a cockup. Where Westwood wins over Dawson is his presence, and influence over the back 4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, vulva said: Time erodes the memory. Westwood has been a very good keeper, but is prone to a cockup. Where Westwood wins over Dawson is his presence, and influence over the back 4. He really isn’t. Every now and again he has a short, little spell where he dips in form but then gets back to standard quickly - often happens when he’s carrying a knock too. Agree with the first point though, you’re proving that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 clean sheets and a dodgy free kick goal in 6 games and people are still moaning.......**** me there’d be a spvnk fest of biblical proportions if Westwood had that record with demands for him to be in the ballon d’or short list 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Dawson only has one problem which is why he gets all this abuse. It's not a problem he can fix either which makes it worse. His problem is: He isn't Keiren Westwood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 19 hours ago, McRightSide said: I find keepers always come. David Seaman always did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 16 hours ago, vulva said: Bump yes he'll get 'bumped' and drop the ball on the edge of the 6 yarder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Naming no names but one poster said Dawson doesn't keep clean sheets If we had a decent referee against Cardiff, he'd have had two in a row Dawson saved us two points last night Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said: Naming no names but one poster said Dawson doesn't keep clean sheets If we had a decent referee against Cardiff, he'd have had two in a row Dawson saved us two points last night he did, by doing his job. but is he any better on crosses? he's a fantastic shot stopper, I don't think anyone is arguing that point, it's his performance under a crossed ball that's the major concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 hours ago, dorian gray said: he did, by doing his job. but is he any better on crosses? he's a fantastic shot stopper, I don't think anyone is arguing that point, it's his performance under a crossed ball that's the major concern. How many times did he drop a cross last night? How many times has he dropped one before? The CBs did their jobs last night, by heading away crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Regardless of his shot stopping,and what a save that was, Dawson needs to improve the consistency of his kicking to be a good Championship keeper. He generally gets under the ball causing the ball to go high with back spin. Try flicking that on. Sometimes in trying to get over the ball he over compensates hence the low kicks. Nightmare for Fletcher when Dawson plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 5 hours ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said: Naming no names but one poster said Dawson doesn't keep clean sheets If we had a decent referee against Cardiff, he'd have had two in a row Dawson saved us two points last night Two in a row does him a disservice.....that Cardiff goal is the only league goal he’s conceded all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howards back Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 A lot of discussion about K W and C D but can anyone tell me what’s K W injury is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Westwood is the better keeper but made of biscuits, Dawson a better shot stopper and more agile but never a top 6 keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, sMacLean said: Westwood is the better keeper but made of biscuits, Dawson a better shot stopper and more agile but never a top 6 keeper. Be interested to hear who you think the “top 6” keepers are in the division?.....Butland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 17 hours ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: How many times did he drop a cross last night? How many times has he dropped one before? The CBs did their jobs last night, by heading away crosses. it's not the c/b's job to head away crosses inside 6 yards, it's his job to handle them if you've not seen him badly handling a cross before now, then you need to pay far more attention, i'm struggling to remember a professional keeper looking less confident under one. do you really think people are counting how many times he drops the ball in his career? how childish a question. last night is one game, if fox has a cracking game, according to you he gets in the side forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, dorian gray said: it's not the c/b's job to head away crosses inside 6 yards, it's his job to handle them if you've not seen him badly handling a cross before now, then you need to pay far more attention, i'm struggling to remember a professional keeper looking less confident under one. do you really think people are counting how many times he drops the ball in his career? how childish a question. last night is one game, if fox has a cracking game, according to you he gets in the side forever. I can’t remember too many crosses that Stoke put in that were the keepers ball. Makes it hard to judge him on that aspect of his game if he isn’t tested on it. Against Cardiff there was a cross in the first half he punched to the edge of the box when it was a straightforward catch. Another cross in the second half where he was rooted to his line and luckily it went out as they had nobody coming in. And the freekick (the fact it wasn’t one is irrelevant) where his positioning was awful. For me they’re his weaknesses. Crosses, positioning and organising the defence. His strengths are agility and shot stopping, and that was on display again in both games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffwed1 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 19 hours ago, Peacenocchio said: Regardless of his shot stopping,and what a save that was, Dawson needs to improve the consistency of his kicking to be a good Championship keeper. He generally gets under the ball causing the ball to go high with back spin. Try flicking that on. Sometimes in trying to get over the ball he over compensates hence the low kicks. Nightmare for Fletcher when Dawson plays. It has not held Westwood back. There isn’t much between them in that criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, LondonOwl313 said: I can’t remember too many crosses that Stoke put in that were the keepers ball. Makes it hard to judge him on that aspect of his game if he isn’t tested on it. Against Cardiff there was a cross in the first half he punched to the edge of the box when it was a straightforward catch. Another cross in the second half where he was rooted to his line and luckily it went out as they had nobody coming in. And the freekick (the fact it wasn’t one is irrelevant) where his positioning was awful. For me they’re his weaknesses. Crosses, positioning and organising the defence. His strengths are agility and shot stopping, and that was on display again in both games of course they are, the guy seriously struggles with this aspect of his game. if he plays for any length of time in the first Xl, he'll be buried in crosses, he's not been good enough, he isn't at present, and at 24 not likely to improve to the level needed with his present restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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