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1 hour ago, Sham67 said:

 

Away fans were in the upper tier in 90/91.  Clearly remember Leicester fans giving a standing ovation when we paraded the LC.

 

The Villa game was following season 91/92. I'm sure this was first time lower West was used since disaster. 

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wonder if this rule also applies when luton town come a week on Tuesday with 100 supporters ? .the days when normal people ran things properly are well gone .when will these idiots realise what happened in 1989 is nothing to do with what happens in 2019 . for starters ive only seen trouble when the pigs came . but it was far worse on bramall lane when we got aggro from the pigs and fireworks threw at us, also there have been numerous times of there supporters attacking away supporters inc going into the Norwich end and putting some of there support in hospital . someone in sag is clearly one of them and have it in for us that there`s no doubt. why are they (sag) trying the opposite and trying to cause problems with crushing and possibly people walking onto the road? dead brain idiots. bet the sag lot are sipping there mule wine tonight laughing at us .

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I am assuming that Hillsborough is NOT the most potentially hazardous ground in the country.  If I am correct, how many of the grounds that are less safe than ours are required to exit three sides of the stadium at one end, and on to a main road?

 

The whole thought process behind this decision is absolutely mind-blowing.

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33 minutes ago, Lawrie Madden said:

The stand holds around 11k full 

 

Dont really get that an extra 10 k will exit onto Penistone Rd unless you are saying that usually only 1k go that way 

Get what you are saying...but remember what it was like after Leeds last season? UTO.

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Steve Lonnia, chair of the council's safety advisory group, said: "Following the submission of a report commissioned by South Yorkshire Police that highlighted issues with regards to public safety on the Leppings Lane forecourt, the council and police have worked very closely with Sheffield Wednesday to resolve these issues.

"Due to the evidence presented in the report, we immediately requested that the club submit proposals to deal with the issues raised.

"A prohibition notice has been served that means there will be no access or egress from the north and south stands on to the Leppings Lane forecourt for home supporters."

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14 minutes ago, The Regulator said:

 

Hadn’t seen that. In that case neither of their online profiles are up to date.

Steve Lonnia is head off Licensing for SCC and the chair of SAG. Andrew Udall works under him at SCC and manages the sports ground safety certificates.

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8 minutes ago, Broncolives said:

I think the only solution would be for a larger access to the North at that end. The only way to do that would be to try and buy up the properties adjacent to the ground demolish and change the perimiter layout.

 

 

Or another bridge over the don. Not sure what would be cheaper

 

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2 minutes ago, BlueBloodedOwl said:

Steve Lonnia is head off Licensing for SCC and the chair of SAG. Andrew Udall works under him at SCC and manages the sports ground safety certificates.

 

Udall is also named as United’s Head of Operations on their website.

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5 hours ago, paddyowl said:

Dont get me wrong, SYP and SAG are massively at fault but the stadium and its legacy are there to be shot at, it cost more to police last seasons Sheffield derby than ANY other match in England.

 

Hillsborough is outdated and would cost a fortune to get it back up to full capacity.

 

The whole LL end needs to be levelled and rebuilt but would we still have the same problems with SYP and SAG ? Yes. 

 

Ridiculous or not ? 

Get DIY sos the big build in to knock down and rebuild the leppings lane end:biggrin:. And as far as fan trouble goes I found that the police start most of it. They shove people about with their robocop gear on waiting for a reaction so they can all come mob handed. And the last 2 Sheffield derbies were policed by other forces as well. I saw plenty of riot vans with Lancashire police etc. They come for a wedge of overtime and an excuse to crack a few heads then go back home feeling well proud of themselves. Muppets of the highest order

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Pathetic . Pathetic.  pathetic.  SAG are a self fulfilling profecy who need to find problems to justify their existence  and where better to justify themselves than Hillsborough! What a joke.

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1 hour ago, The Regulator said:

 

Udall is also named as United’s Head of Operations on their website.

It appears he is doing both roles and has been for over 2 years. Not sure how this was ever approved by SCC. I do know he specializes in structural engineering.

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An alternative view to this fiasco:

1) SYP commissioned Professor Keith Still for this report on the Leppings Lane Concourse after there much criticised policing of the SWFC/SUFC game last season. Fact 

2) The same Keith Still who was expert witness for them re Hillsborough disaster. Fact

3) The timing of this report is significant, a few days before the first home game, maximum publicity to SYP, maximum disruption to the club and within the legal time frame for submission as evidence in the re-trial of DD/SYP which commences on the 7th October.

4) Opinion - DD/SYP will use this report in the re-trial to deflect blame away from them and back towards the club, i.e. Leppings Lane not fit for purpose etc etc

5) Why ? if the jury accept this, DD/SYP are Not Guilty - therefore all walk free, no Compensation Payments from SYP, they are completely vindicated, club are to blame.

6) There abysmal policing at the derby match is also deflected back to the fans of both clubs and SWFC.

7) I am a Wednesday fan for over 55 years, used both North/South Stands to enter and exit via the Leppings Lane on countless occasions without any fears for my/others safety.

8) This is a blatant and disgraceful attempt by SYP to cover up there own shortcomings yet again.

9) Its time we stood up to these bureaucrats who in there opinion consider it safe to allow 25,000 home fans to exit via 2 routes only onto Penistone Road/Over the Bridge, tomorrow afternoon - utter madness !

 

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50 minutes ago, ashleydavid said:

An alternative view to this fiasco:

1) SYP commissioned Professor Keith Still for this report on the Leppings Lane Concourse after there much criticised policing of the SWFC/SUFC game last season. Fact 

2) The same Keith Still who was expert witness for them re Hillsborough disaster. Fact

3) The timing of this report is significant, a few days before the first home game, maximum publicity to SYP, maximum disruption to the club and within the legal time frame for submission as evidence in the re-trial of DD/SYP which commences on the 7th October.

4) Opinion - DD/SYP will use this report in the re-trial to deflect blame away from them and back towards the club, i.e. Leppings Lane not fit for purpose etc etc

5) Why ? if the jury accept this, DD/SYP are Not Guilty - therefore all walk free, no Compensation Payments from SYP, they are completely vindicated, club are to blame.

6) There abysmal policing at the derby match is also deflected back to the fans of both clubs and SWFC.

7) I am a Wednesday fan for over 55 years, used both North/South Stands to enter and exit via the Leppings Lane on countless occasions without any fears for my/others safety.

8) This is a blatant and disgraceful attempt by SYP to cover up there own shortcomings yet again.

9) Its time we stood up to these bureaucrats who in there opinion consider it safe to allow 25,000 home fans to exit via 2 routes only onto Penistone Road/Over the Bridge, tomorrow afternoon - utter madness !

 

 

This. 

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