McRightSide Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, Neon Nick said: Don't know how decisive a Form Table can be at predicting upcoming performances....but I'd rather see more green than gray & red. The whole League is open, nobody has overwhelming superiority, good God, mighty Leeds got beat by Birmingham City, 2-1, and Aston Villa just got run ragged against SWFC. The League Table is the only one that really matters, but, in the end, the Clubs with better form, across 46 matches, are the ones to get promoted. Taking 6 match slices of form, will definitely show trends as they develop, as more slices are added. We're 9 matches in, so we have only one 6 match slice, and 3 from the next slice. So far, form looks good, still, SWFC has knocked down only 14 points out of a possible 27, we're batting 51.85%. Leeds is batting 66.67%, with 18 points, out of 27 possible. So, according to the League Table, Leeds has done 15% better than SWFC. Let's cross-check that. 9 x .15 = 1.35. Leeds is better than us, by 1.35 matches, and it checks, a win will put us 1 point under Leeds. Point? The League is up for grabs this season, and so far, our form, and position in the League Table, isn't all that bad, and monitoring form trends, is useful because all manner of trends will appear. I hope @owlstalk continues with the 6 match form slices...be interesting to overlay that with the Graph Thread data. Well technically we already have 4 x 6 match slices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Nick Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 minute ago, McRightSide said: Well technically we already have 4 x 6 match slices. Thank you. Where can I find them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognacbarnowl Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 57 minutes ago, Neon Nick said: Thank you. Where can I find them? matches 1-6, 2-7, 3-8, 4-9 ffs. You'll find em in Hector's back pocket along with Kodjia and Abrahams FFS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Nick Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, cognacbarnowl said: matches 1-6, 2-7, 3-8, 4-9 ffs. You'll find em in Hector's back pocket along with Kodjia and Abrahams FFS Did not know, that's why a I'm here, learn a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognacbarnowl Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Neon Nick said: Did not know, that's why a I'm here, learn a lot. Welcome aboard the good ship Owlstalk dude. That there was your first lesson and was free. Any more from now on will incur a small fee charged direct to your debit card. Just p m me your bank details and we can get started fleeci…… erm…. teaching you immediately. And good luck in this asylum buddy. FFS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Nick Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 21 minutes ago, cognacbarnowl said: Welcome aboard the good ship Owlstalk dude. That there was your first lesson and was free. Any more from now on will incur a small fee charged direct to your debit card. Just p m me your bank details and we can get started fleeci…… erm…. teaching you immediately. And good luck in this asylum buddy. FFS Oh it's a trip, but there's nothing that cannot be answered here. Long time follower, this is the first time I've ever researched the Club. So if I make misinformed comments, by all means inform me. I'll raise a glass to you, during the Leeds match... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindygrOWLer Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 17 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Seems like the critics don't like it not going in their favour Seems like you don't understand that I negged your title statement, not the form table... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuttyTeabags Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 On 23/09/2018 at 02:02, @owlstalk said: Unless of course you're one of those that thinks Westwood should be back in goal, Forestieri should be in the side regardless of effort and commitment he puts in, and that Jos doesn't wave his arms around enough and scream from the touchlines 7 points from next 3 games and I'm a believer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, McRightSide said: Its not really. Whats weird is someone posting our ‘form’ going back 15 and 20 odd games Hows our form over the last 8 league games? That’s all I’m really bothered about (unless I’m gambling) Form tables, used sensibly, can tell us lots. Last 18 games W10. D3. L5. GF34. GA23. Pts33 Why 18 games? Because it dates back to Leeds Away, when Bannan came back. Prior to that we only had Reach fit among our top players. Lees had just come back and was now joined by Bannan. Soon after we got Forestieri and more recently Fletcher. It’s over these 18 games it makes sense to look at our results under Jos....and they are excellent. 33 points from 18 is ~ auto-spot form. 86 points. 34 goals in those 18 is prolific. Would be an amazing 88 goal season. Our best recent season was 66 in Carlos V1. Last 6 games W4. D1. L1. GF11. GA5. Pts13 Why 6 games? Because it marked our turning point. It’s our form since the Jos Brentford Riot Act. Anyway, all the major form tables seem to think six games is the period to consider. 13 points from 6 wins you the Championship by a distance. 100 points. Again, 11 goals in 6 is prolific. An exhillerating 84 goal season if maintained. Last 9 games Of course this is the only one that really matters. The season is 9 games old, and nothing else gets you promoted than your form between August and May. But, our 18 game form shows us that when Jos has several of our better players available he can mould them into a successful side. The last six games shows that we are most definitely on track. We are on the upslope. Edited September 24, 2018 by Holmowl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Another spot from the OP’s table. We are the league’s joint top scorers over the last 6 games, with 11. We want wins, points and promotion, but a bit of pleasure in the shape of lots of goals would be a very nice cherry on top. Boro and Swansea are flying high, but have scored 6 and 5 respectively. Yawn. Nothing yawn-inducing about our games:- 2-1 2-1 2-1 2-2 1-2 2-1 It might have escaped notice, but under Jos we don’t half score goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, Holmowl said: 2-1 2-1 2-1 2-2 1-2 2-1 It might have escaped notice, but under Jos we don’t half score goals. Score a lot and concede a fair few. And yet... People keep telling me "Jos is too negative!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Score a lot and concede a fair few. And yet... People keep telling me "Jos is too negative!" We get the ball forward these days. Less recycling, less finding 57 different routes to feed the ball back to our keeper. We are playing so much more positive football under Jos. Its possible this is as good as it gets, but I’m optimistic that as player confidence grows (Jos’s mantra at present) we will turn some of the 2-1s into 3-0s and 4-1s. But with this squad let’s not pretend that there won’t be some pretty rocky games too. Our midfield and especially our defenceare wafer thin on quality. Jos is doing a super job. Edited September 24, 2018 by Holmowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 The only table that counts is the one after 2 pm on the 5th May 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Another key stat is goals against because if we can reduce this, top 6 at worst for us. Hector will help big time. Leeds lot are tired already and Boro's route 1 has been found out. And Rov can do Derby so Championship's wide open for us to progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I feel quite cheered that there is so much room for improvement and we are already where we are. The defence is likely to improve. We have some good players in there now but lacking experience and time playing together. Although we are scoring goals, I feel we could be more clinical. I think confidence can grow and the likes of FF and Hooper to come back or increase the competition for places. Consistency is the key and is often elusive. UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 10 hours ago, Holmowl said: Another spot from the OP’s table. We are the league’s joint top scorers over the last 6 games, with 11. We want wins, points and promotion, but a bit of pleasure in the shape of lots of goals would be a very nice cherry on top. Boro and Swansea are flying high, but have scored 6 and 5 respectively. Yawn. Nothing yawn-inducing about our games:- 2-1 2-1 2-1 2-2 1-2 2-1 It might have escaped notice, but under Jos we don’t half score goals. Goals against is the problem , but HECTOR may be a big help here. If so, top 6 minimum. Fridays the big un. Friday's the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 11 hours ago, Lord Snooty said: Score a lot and concede a fair few. And yet... People keep telling me "Jos is too negative!" He is, we don't start playing until 70 mins We could easily have double the amount of goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 12 hours ago, Holmowl said: Another spot from the OP’s table. We are the league’s joint top scorers over the last 6 games, with 11. We want wins, points and promotion, but a bit of pleasure in the shape of lots of goals would be a very nice cherry on top. Boro and Swansea are flying high, but have scored 6 and 5 respectively. Yawn. Nothing yawn-inducing about our games:- 2-1 2-1 2-1 2-2 1-2 2-1 It might have escaped notice, but under Jos we don’t half score goals. Been saying it for a while; our new fave score, 2-1. Vindaloo will do. We're gonna score one more than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 11 hours ago, fred mciver said: Another key stat is goals against because if we can reduce this, top 6 at worst for us. Hector will help big time. Leeds lot are tired already and Boro's route 1 has been found out. And Rov can do Derby so Championship's wide open for us to progress. The irony being, all the pundits were saying Leeds are fielding the same team, week in, week out, like it was a great tactic. Only one outcome in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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