Hawkowl Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Time to leave this alone... DOH!! Stop posting then. DOH!! 5h1t I've done it again. Aaaaaaggggghhh. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 Ffshawkowl18TM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Utah Owl said: No, not at all because as has been pointed out numerous times since the news broke, the real story isn't really about Hirst, it's about a very wealthy PL club circumventing the rules to avoid paying compensation to a club that has nurtured and developed a young talent. If we let it go as you suggest, then there is even less likelihood that the football authorities will actually do something to prevent a repeat situation in the future. It's easy to prevent, don't let player contracts expire & you won't have to deal with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, gurru991 said: It's easy to prevent, don't let player contracts expire & you won't have to deal with this. Hirst has his head turned by both agents and his dad. First told people ages before this saga even erupted that he would not let his son sign for us if he had anything to do with it. How do you prevent that? Edited July 2, 2018 by Utah Owl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Woozie Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 17 hours ago, Utah Owl said: Hirst has his head turned by both agents and his dad. First told people ages before this saga even erupted that he would not let his son sign for us if he had anything to do with it. How do you prevent that? You make them an offer they can't refuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) Edited July 2, 2018 by BIG D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Nice of you to find your voice George, to be fair I’ve said all I’ve said and it’s water under the bridge good luck lad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 20 hours ago, Utah Owl said: Hirst has his head turned by both agents and his dad. First told people ages before this saga even erupted that he would not let his son sign for us if he had anything to do with it. How do you prevent that? The industry standard in football is to sell any player who only has one year left on his contract. Having said that Liverpool lost Emre Can for free & it looks like Arsenal will lose Jack Wilshire the same way. It's a gamble the owners take when they let any contract run down. Daniel Levy, one of the more aggressive DOF's doesn't let any players contract go past the one year mark. It's a decision a club has to make knowing full well they are rolling the dice !! Sometimes you just have to cash out & take your losses because the system has flaws that can play against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminowl Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, gurru991 said: The industry standard in football is to sell any player who only has one year left on his contract. Having said that Liverpool lost Emre Can for free & it looks like Arsenal will lose Jack Wilshire the same way. It's a gamble the owners take when they let any contract run down. Daniel Levy, one of the more aggressive DOF's doesn't let any players contract go past the one year mark. It's a decision a club has to make knowing full well they are rolling the dice !! Sometimes you just have to cash out & take your losses because the system has flaws that can play against you. How does Daniel Levy force people to sign contracts if they don't want to? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 He doesn’t. He just does not play them so their career stalls. Think that’s what he’s doing currently with Toby Aldervieweld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Would have made a spiffing fairytale. Father and son. Number 9's spanning the years. Down in folklaw. Eventually into Legend. But life isn't a fairytale sadly. The boys gone. His father probably won't be around as much. C'est la vie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 2 hours ago, roaminowl said: How does Daniel Levy force people to sign contracts if they don't want to? He sells them if they won't sign when one year left on contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminowl Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, gurru991 said: He sells them if they won't sign when one year left on contract. How does he force other teams to buy players that they don't want/need? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminowl Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, gurru991 said: He sells them if they won't sign when one year left on contract. How does he force players to sign a contract for another club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnishOwl Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 hours ago, roaminowl said: How does he force other teams to buy players that they don't want/need? There is usually a taker when the price is right? Better than a free transfer (+ paid salaries as an expense) anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 HALLELUJIAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminowl Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 6 hours ago, FinnishOwl said: There is usually a taker when the price is right? Better than a free transfer (+ paid salaries as an expense) anyway. Usually? Great point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnishOwl Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, roaminowl said: Usually? Great point. Well, let's see yours then, Mr. Negative. I'm quite sure that most players, who are certain to leave for free in the summer, can be sold for peanuts in January to offload them. Of course we must consider that the players have a good wage/ability ratio, or are willing to take a pay cut to play. Hirst would have gone to Leicester or other clubs for the right price, but the club didn't want to take the money. That blew up in DC's face but he probably learns from such mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Its like pulling sodding teeth these last few posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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