Fast Forward Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Miruic said: It was Chris Holt who wrote the inaccurate article about McClaren talking to Wednesday about the managers job, although Don did appear to support his colleagues article in his tweet. I’m guessing the simple truth is that he like everyone else doesn’t have a clue who the next manager will be so there is nothing to write. No point writing anything manager related until he has something to write about. A good journalist goes out and investigates what's going on, finds the news, uses his contacts to discern what's happening. A journalist who has nothing to write about isn't doing his job. It's not about guessing and making it up like we do on here. Edited December 30, 2017 by Fast Forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyowl1 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 7 hours ago, Rebowl Yell said: Chansiri should ban all local journos from the club and go down the route of having a club sanctioned spokesperson that can give us all the 100% real genuine articles and stuff from the club. What’s Comical Ali doing these days , I miss his insightful analysis of the gulf war . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 20 minutes ago, Fast Forward said: A good journalist goes out and investigates what's going on, finds the news, uses his contacts to discern what's happening. A journalist who has nothing to write about isn't doing his job. It's not about guessing and making it up like we do on here. You cant have noticed how journalism has changed over the last year or two mate its no longer what you say it is its now just content creation in volume Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Ps I reallly like Chris Holts work Its really refreshing Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 7 hours ago, Rebowl Yell said: Chansiri should ban all local journos from the club and go down the route of having a club sanctioned spokesperson that can give us all the 100% real genuine articles and stuff from the club. I can't believe that I've just read that - incredible! Are you joking? Have I been whooshed? Or do you really want control of expression and free speech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 22 minutes ago, Fast Forward said: A good journalist goes out and investigates what's going on, finds the news, uses his contacts to discern what's happening. A journalist who has nothing to write about isn't doing his job. It's not about guessing and making it up like we do on here. You make it sound so easy. Not a lot gets out from the club and hasn't for awhile. The reporters do their best and work hard. They probably do know stuff but don't report it out of request from the club. If they go against the clubs wishes the club won't give them any information or allow them to come to press conferences/games. He's a local reporter, that's his job. Not an investigative journalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: You make it sound so easy. Not a lot gets out from the club and hasn't for awhile. The reporters do their best and work hard. They probably do know stuff but don't report it out of request from the club. If they go against the clubs wishes the club won't give them any information or allow them to come to press conferences/games. He's a local reporter, that's his job. Not an investigative journalist. this is the problem for them 1 man making decisions and therefore reduced opportunity for leaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 First It was Paul Thompson now it's Dom Howsom. The guy is just doing his job and will know a lot more than what he actually puts in print. It may come as a shock to some but not everything that happens at Middlewood Road and Hillsborough is positive. Like Paul Thompson before Dom Howsom will want SWFC to be successful but there will often be things that happen around the club that he doesn't have any control over. Such as poor performances, such as delayed kits, such as high ticket prices, such as players having tantrums, such as players having a poor pre-season, such as having a clueless head coach. But let's all blame Dom for everything wrong at SWFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 11 hours ago, Pale Rider said: You would think our local Owls journalist would have been more active over the last few days. Hope you’re enjoying your time off Dom. Yeah , Its shocking. He should have spent his christmas living in a tent outside the south stand seeing if anyone turned up at the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Forward Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: First It was Paul Thompson now it's Dom Howsom. The guy is just doing his job and will know a lot more than what he actually puts in print. It may come as a shock to some but not everything that happens at Middlewood Road and Hillsborough is positive. Like Paul Thompson before Dom Howsom will want SWFC to be successful but there will often be things that happen around the club that he doesn't have any control over. Such as poor performances, such as delayed kits, such as high ticket prices, such as players having tantrums, such as players having a poor pre-season, such as having a clueless head coach. But let's all blame Dom for everything wrong at SWFC. Did somebody blame Dom Howson for everything wrong at SWFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Maybe he should just make some news up. But then he gets shots for that aswell doesn't he. Lose lose job poor Dom has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 29 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: You make it sound so easy. Not a lot gets out from the club and hasn't for awhile. The reporters do their best and work hard. They probably do know stuff but don't report it out of request from the club. If they go against the clubs wishes the club won't give them any information or allow them to come to press conferences/games. He's a local reporter, that's his job. Not an investigative journalist. Not a lot gets out? Needs to come on OT the truth is here all laid out for the reporters, no work needed. Terry Henfleet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Ps he’s been out the country till today Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 29 minutes ago, Fast Forward said: Did somebody blame Dom Howson for everything wrong at SWFC? Just about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 11 hours ago, Tommo_ said: He's a shiiiiiiite "journalist" Can you point me to a good sports journalist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, M Royds said: Can you point me to a good sports journalist? David Conn (npi) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel The Tree Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, M Royds said: Can you point me to a good sports journalist? Martin Samuel Say what you like about the Daily Mail, you'd get no argument from me, but reading his articles is time well spent (IMO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, steelowl said: David Conn (npi) 2 minutes ago, Ethel The Tree said: Martin Samuel Say what you like about the Daily Mail, you'd get no argument from me, but reading his articles is time well spent (IMO) Do you not think these two won't have their detracters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, M Royds said: Do you not think these two won't have their detractors? Well yes I think most complaints against reporters are based on bland, ambiguous reporting of the obvious but then they are tasked with production of say 250 words and due to lack of knowledge they are space fillers It also needs to be recognised that reporters especially local sometimes have to keep quiet on stuff until an agreed release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Forward Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 23 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: Just about Not even near. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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