Ethel The Tree Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, M Royds said: Do you not think these two won't have their detracters? Martin Samuel has plenty - just check out the comments printed below each article But then he'll often publish a weekly 'debate' where he gets to stick up for himself - bit of a highlight, again IMO Perhaps we ought to be making the distinction here between 'sports journalist' and 'local reporter' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, steelowl said: Well yes I think most complaints against reporters are based on bland, ambiguous reporting of the obvious but then they are tasked with production of say 250 words and due to lack of knowledge they are space fillers It also needs to be recognised that reporters especially local sometimes have to keep quiet on stuff until an agreed release Exactly, and the point I'm trying to make. Whoever you suggest they'll be someone on here who questions the journo's credentials. Sadly it happens on here far too often where we have an actives membership that reviews journo's, often negatively, like Biggs, Nixon, et al. It's a footy forum not a shoot the messenger alley. We should stick whats important to some of the membership such review the sky sports presenters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 25 minutes ago, M Royds said: Exactly, and the point I'm trying to make. Whoever you suggest they'll be someone on here who questions the journo's credentials. Sadly it happens on here far too often where we have an actives membership that reviews journo's, often negatively, like Biggs, Nixon, et al. It's a footy forum not a shoot the messenger alley. We should stick whats important to some of the membership such review the sky sports presenters. you lost me with the last sentence mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 49 minutes ago, M Royds said: Can you point me to a good sports journalist? Barney Ronay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_ Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, M Royds said: Can you point me to a good sports journalist? Alan Biggs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbo48 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 47 minutes ago, Socialist_Owl said: Barney Ronay Socialist Owl picks Guardian sports Journalist. Shock ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHero Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 13 hours ago, Nath83 said: He's tweeted a few times over the past few days. What do you expect him to be doing? Starting the Cult of McClaren? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Tommo_ said: Alan Biggs Now you are taking the wee wee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlInCardiff Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Ibbo48 said: Socialist Owl picks Guardian sports Journalist. Shock ? Guardian? Socialist? Liberal at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbo48 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, OwlInCardiff said: Guardian? Socialist? Liberal at best. Guardian not left wing ? Ok mate if you say so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Exactly never understand people who slate the local journos Unless its Alan Biggs, then criticism is completely understandable Edited December 30, 2017 by Stoop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Stoop said: Unless its Alan Biggs, then criticism is completely understandable Disagree Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Just now, @owlstalk said: Disagree I don’t see how anyone could disagree Im a fair man, but he’s truly woeful. He’ll be along in a week or so with his column that will waffle on and fill column inches without actually saying anything. He also frequently defends the indefensible, it’s as though he’s scared to speak his mind so’s not to upset anybody. Which is a world away from Holt, Howson, Newsome, Staton, Giddings etc who have all said it how it is this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel The Tree Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 30/12/2017 at 10:56, M Royds said: Can you point me to a good sports journalist? There's a link here, in case you're still interested If, like me, you're not too bothered about cricket or tennis, you can read the start and then jump to Point Five at the end The way MS interacts with his 'detractors' is really quite admirable (and well worth about 15-20mins of your time) .... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-5232489/Fawlty-arguments-trying-stop-Man-City-greats.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, Ethel The Tree said: There's a link here, in case you're still interested If, like me, you're not too bothered about cricket or tennis, you can read the start and then jump to Point Five at the end The way MS interacts with his 'detractors' is really quite admirable (and well worth about 15-20mins of your time) .... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-5232489/Fawlty-arguments-trying-stop-Man-City-greats.html it is a good read and he tries to justify his style of journalism but there's a danger of him becoming celeb journey. My point is that unless journo's particularly local one's are dismissed, ridiculed, insulted unless they are either arśe licking Sheffield Wednesday or just telling us what we want to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 On 12/30/2017 at 12:27, Tommo_ said: Alan Biggs With Chris Holt he's the worst of the lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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