steelowl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincolnowl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-carlos-carvalhal-defends-george-boyd-omission-1-8708323 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, lincolnowl said: Remember a couple of weeks into the season when Carlos told Boyd, who near enough topped the charts for distance covered in the PL. last season that he shouldn’t run as much? Or when he told him he couldn’t play in a diamond but Ross Wallace can? Bizarre. This. Some odd personnel notes from the gaffer pre-injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, lincolnowl said: https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-carlos-carvalhal-defends-george-boyd-omission-1-8708323 And it already started to "kick off" by then . Aug. 18th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Only Carlos would tell a player to stop runnning around so much. Boyd's game is built entirely on his energy levels and work rate. I bet he regrets ever coming to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East coast owl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 It’s hard to believe that we have so many injuries that players struggle to recover from. They only train for 1 and a half hours a day. Cant imagine they are smashing into tackles ect. We never see a smashing tackle in a game.. And I bet they don’t train every day. Maybe if they did double training sessions we wouldn’t be so out of shape and keep getting injuries.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bark1062 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 53 minutes ago, s6 owl said: Carlos is the man when it comes to destroying wingers careers. The way this signing has gone isn’t a surprise to me. Not just wingers mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s6 owl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Bark1062 said: Not just wingers mate! True fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) I think he got a bit of a surprise coming from Dyches fitness routine to CCs 5-aside training. Not saying that caused his absence though, he didn’t look particularly settled when he did play. Another experienced professional struggling to adapt to our “way of playing”. Edited December 13, 2017 by Bluesteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indoor Owl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 45 minutes ago, lincolnowl said: Remember a couple of weeks into the season when Carlos told Boyd, who near enough topped the charts for distance covered in the PL. last season that he shouldn’t run as much? Or when he told him he couldn’t play in a diamond but Ross Wallace can? Bizarre. I remember one passing comment, not said by Carlos, but by Jones hinting at it. And I remember when Carlos specifically said that he wanted to rest Boyd for the cup game, and they have players better suited to the midfield diamond. It's amazing how these otherwise benign statements manage to take on a complete life of their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 58 minutes ago, s6 owl said: Even when he was fit he couldn’t wait to throw Wallace back into the team despite Wallace being absolute dog s**t. So you have no idea then, you are just making things up when you suggest Carlos is to blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s6 owl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 54 minutes ago, oldishowl said: So you have no idea then, you are just making things up when you suggest Carlos is to blame Making what up? It’s quite obvious that Carlos is a p**s poor man manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, s6 owl said: Making what up? It’s quite obvious that Carlos is a p**s poor man manager and yet you never hear the players slagging him or banging on about wanting a transfer like you do at other clubs ,when we offer them new contracts they all seem keen to sign . you'd think with the crap way he treats them they'd being queuing up to leave ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 21 minutes ago, s6 owl said: Making what up? It’s quite obvious that Carlos is a p**s poor man manager You suggest Carlos is to blame for the fact that Boyd has not played yet the club say he is injured. I am just trying to understand why Carlos is to blame for that or if you think they are telling lies What has that got to Carlos and his man management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s6 owl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, oldishowl said: You suggest Carlos is to blame for the fact that Boyd has not played yet the club say he is injured. I am just trying to understand why Carlos is to blame for that or if you think they are telling lies What has that got to Carlos and his man management? Missing the point fella. He came to us with a decent reputation and surprise, surprise under CC he’s turned into another flop, injured or not he probably would have still ended up being frozen out because that’s how Carlos goes about his business... The fact he is injured isn’t relevant to me. Just like after the Norwich game when he said Abdi was injured... Seriously who cares if he is injured or not because he still wouldn’t have got a look in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 28 minutes ago, torryowl said: and yet you never hear the players slagging him or banging on about wanting a transfer like you do at other clubs ,when we offer them new contracts they all seem keen to sign . you'd think with the crap way he treats them they'd being queuing up to leave ........... Players these days have only one loyalty and that is money. Could it be more of the case that these "contented happy souls" know for sure they couldn't get as much anywhere else as clubs that would pay more wouldn't necessarily want them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, s6 owl said: Missing the point fella. He came to us with a decent reputation and surprise, surprise under CC he’s turned into another flop, injured or not he probably would have still ended up being frozen out because that’s how Carlos goes about his business... The fact he is injured isn’t relevant to me. Just like after the Norwich game when he said Abdi was injured... Seriously who cares if he is injured or not because he still wouldn’t have got a look in. if carlos goes about his business freezing out players how do we manage to get 11 on the pitch every week ..... by my reckoning we have 27 players only dawson and fred of them havnt played this season . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 minute ago, The Dukeries Owl said: Players these days have only one loyalty and that is money. Could it be more of the case that these "contented happy souls" know for sure they couldn't get as much anywhere else as clubs that would pay more wouldn't necessarily want them? could be but then again it could be that they are happy to be part of the squad .... none of us know do we ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 38 minutes ago, torryowl said: and yet you never hear the players slagging him or banging on about wanting a transfer like you do at other clubs ,when we offer them new contracts they all seem keen to sign . you'd think with the crap way he treats them they'd being queuing up to leave ........... Its not all rosy in that dressing room and aint been for some time. I'm not saying who has told me 1-2 things but most clubs do have disagreements amongst players.as for players not banging on door to leave well if your abdi on 35k plus a wk or fletcher on 40k or Rhodes on 50k you aint all that fussed whether you play or not when your earning double what any other club would pay them at this minute for there performances or non performances . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 16 minutes ago, s6 owl said: Missing the point fella. He came to us with a decent reputation and surprise, surprise under CC he’s turned into another flop, injured or not he probably would have still ended up being frozen out because that’s how Carlos goes about his business... The fact he is injured isn’t relevant to me. Just like after the Norwich game when he said Abdi was injured... Seriously who cares if he is injured or not because he still wouldn’t have got a look in. So you are effectively saying the club is telling lies because you describe him as a flop because of Carlos and even though I think Carlos should go I don't blame him for injuries. You seem to think Abdi is 100% fit and raring to go and Carlos is telling lies here as well Do you really think Boyd's agent would let the club say his client is injured when he isn't . Boyd played every away game until he was injured and the home games where we played a flat back four. You describe that as frozen out. Now you tell me you know that even if Boyd wasn't injured you know Carlos wouldn't have played him. How can you possibly know that. As I say I think Carlos should go but at least I am looking at facts not fantasy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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