MOwl Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just now, CharlieOwl said: To be honest I doubt he is happy just to pick up a pay packet, He's probably more frustrated than any of us are about the constant injuries and lack of play time. At the end of the day footballers want to play football and I doubt he's happy sat on the sidelines. So happy he decided to get himself sent off against Fulham to sit out even more matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 With Boyd signing Matias won't play another game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, jacko1992 said: Not up to what's required. Happy to sit and pick up a wage. Get shut He's been injured though. You can't just say he's sat there and picked up a wage because it's just not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike312 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Shame as he obviously has talent but I can see him going back to Portugal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markowski77 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 He might be good but there is no point in having good players who play max 5 games a season.... his legs are made out of rich tea biscuits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieOwl Posted July 4, 2017 Author Share Posted July 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, MOwl said: So happy he decided to get himself sent off against Fulham to sit out even more matches So anyone that has even been sent off then means they are happy to sit on the sidelines? more likely to be a hot headed decision to is later regretted by the offender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Markowski77 said: He might be good but there is no point in having good players who play max 5 games a season.... his legs are made out of rich tea biscuits He had a hernia type injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieOwl Posted July 4, 2017 Author Share Posted July 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Animal said: With Boyd signing Matias won't play another game They can play opposite wings though so could still feature together. I think where we play Fessi will have more impact on whether Matias gets play time or not rather than the signing of Boyd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Play him. Give him a run fitness providing and let's hope the player that is in there comes out this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indoor Owl Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, CharlieOwl said: To be honest I doubt he is happy just to pick up a pay packet, He's probably more frustrated than any of us are about the constant injuries and lack of play time. At the end of the day footballers want to play football and I doubt he's happy sat on the sidelines. I second that: He netted 17 in 32 games for Nacional, 2nd in the league in scoring (for anyone keeping score, Jackson Martinez lead with 21, and moved to Athletico for £30 mil before heading for Chinese Super League). I very much doubt he's pleased with being fit for two games either. Whether or not he can turn it around here is another matter, but I think he's needs to be out the door to a definite 4-3-3 team somewhere in Portugal / Spain, instead of being square-pegged-into-round-hole'd into a formation here. Edited July 4, 2017 by Indoor Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GY-owl.4 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 I think on footballing abilities he is easy good enough to play in the championship, probably higher. but IMO the physicality of the champ' is too much for him, and i dont think he can get over that to have a career with us. Had we gone up he may have been a player but he doesnt look like he fancies this league to me. Hope im wrong though, would love him to come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl4528 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 He's done well for us but we have an abundance in midfield now and it makes sense to offload if we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Indoor Owl said: I second that: He netted 17 in 32 games for Nacional, 2nd in the league in scoring (for anyone keeping score, Jackson Martinez lead with 21, and moved to Athletico for £30 mil before heading for Chinese Super League). I very much doubt he's pleased with being fit for two games either. Whether or not he can turn it around here is another matter, but I think he's needs to be out the door to a definite 4-3-3 team somewhere in Portugal / Spain, instead of being square-pegged-into-round-hole'd into a formation here. Yeah. We've let him down big time. What are you thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 He's a talented player who unfortunately has suffered injury problems since being here along with the likes of Melo, Hooper, Abdi. With a new medical team coming in I wouldn't right him off just yet. Let's see if they can keep on top of things - in no way a dig at the old medical team. This new team may have a different recovery strategy. If we can keep him fit we have a good player so I hope we give him until at least January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indoor Owl Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Yeah. We've let him down big time. What are you thinking? I don't know about let him down - it's a product of circumstance: Surgery to repair a hernia, then a torn groin when he was trying to rehab back up. I certainly don't fault the ambition of bringing the second leading scorer in the Primeira Liga in, just that it hasn't worked out as planned and now we have a bit of an over-abundance of attacking options up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Just now, Indoor Owl said: I don't know about let him down - it's a product of circumstance: Surgery to repair a hernia, then a torn groin when he was trying to rehab back up. I certainly don't fault the ambition of bringing the second leading scorer in the Primeira Liga in, just that it hasn't worked out as planned and now we have a bit of an over-abundance of attacking options up front. You implied that he's been a failure here because we played him out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markowski77 Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 14 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: He had a hernia type injury? Caught me out there, I was just jumping on the bandwagon Still injured all the time haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSlicer Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 The first game of the 15/16 season. He had an excellent game in my opinion. But as others have said we haven't really seen enough of him. There's definitely some ability in there. I wouldn't be too fussed either way. Would be happy for him to stay. But I can't really see him breaking into the squad at the minute. Six months loan back in Portugal to get some confidence maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 45 minutes ago, MOwl said: If we can recoup 500/600k for the guy then we've made the best out of a terrible signing. Yet another player with no heart, no fight, scared to get stuck in.. Lets just get shut. You say that... but in his first season in English footie he averaged more tackles and interceptions per game than Ross Wallace. That said... what's the chuffing point in having him around if he doesn't play? I have no doubt that when fit he'd be a great member of the matchday 18, but there's no point saying that if the bloke is just never able to play football? He should go off back to the continent ASAP and have a good career there, because there's no way he's going to manage it at Sheffield Wednesday for whatever reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 36 minutes ago, Animal said: With Boyd signing Matias won't play another game I'd be tempted to say that even if we had no other wingers at the club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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