Owling Wolfe Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 "The league was weaker than last season" did I hear that right. Wow, we had Newcastle with their treasure chest parachute payments and circa 50K crowds, Brighton who have been improving over the last 4 seasons, Villa who should have done better, Norwich (see villa comment), Derby and then the surprise packages that always appear. "We don't have a squad strong enough for the top 6" Ironically they have managed it for the last 2 seasons. Radio Sheffield United sticking the knife in as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 13 hours ago, aeroswfc said: Gordon Watson Wednesday legend Gordan Watson's Wednesday record Apps 88 Goals 21 Not a legend compared to David Hirst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, Owling Wolfe said: "The league was weaker than last season" did I hear that right. Wow, we had Newcastle with their treasure chest parachute payments and circa 50K crowds, Brighton who have been improving over the last 4 seasons, Villa who should have done better, Norwich (see villa comment), Derby and then the surprise packages that always appear. "We don't have a squad strong enough for the top 6" Ironically they have managed it for the last 2 seasons. Radio Sheffield United sticking the knife in as usual. What for interviewing someone with an opinion who isn't scared to voice it? We've blown a golden chance to get promoted two seasons on the trot. There needs to be an honest appraisal of why that happened. There are a few people on this forum, and maybe you are one, who continually want to stifle opinion. As if openly questioning things somehow makes you anti Wednesday or a bad fan. It's time to wake up. Carlos has refused to move on from last years team. Is that a manager problem or a recruitment problem? Because tens of millions of transfer money sits on the bench while Carlos continues to pick Stuart Gray's team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling Wolfe Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bodhidharma said: What for interviewing someone with an opinion who isn't scared to voice it? We've blown a golden chance to get promoted two seasons on the trot. There needs to be an honest appraisal of why that happened. There are a few people on this forum, and maybe you are one, who continually want to stifle opinion. As if openly questioning things somehow makes you anti Wednesday or a bad fan. It's time to wake up. Carlos has refused to move on from last years team. Is that a manager problem or a recruitment problem? Because tens of millions of transfer money sits on the bench while Carlos continues to pick Stuart Gray's team. I'm not questioning his right to his opinion. I was questioning the two statements I wrote that he had said which I think are wrong. My opinion is that the league WAS stronger this year than last and we ARE good enough for the top six. I'm not stifling anybody's opinion, unless expressing my own opinion is stifling someone else's, which I doubt very much. And as for Radio Sheffield, they started the Carlos leaving rumours right before the play offs, kept it going after he said he wouldn't talk about it and continued it through the 2 games so my opinion of them is very low, but of course that is my opinion and I would not want to "stifle" anybody else's opinion on here. Edited May 21, 2017 by Owling Wolfe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, Lord Snooty said: I'd be interested to know how many games Gordon has watched us this season. I wondered that when listening - sounded to me like he didnt have a great insight into the squad or our matches. I think John Newsome gave a better insight especially into the rights and wrongs of the penalty takers. Edited May 21, 2017 by Spookone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Owling Wolfe said: I'm not questioning his right to his opinion. I was questioning the two statements I wrote that he had said which I think are wrong. My opinion is that the league WAS stronger this year than last and we ARE good enough for the top six. I'm not stifling anybody's opinion, unless expressing my own opinion is stifling someone else's, which I doubt very much. And as for Radio Sheffield, they started the Carlos leaving rumours right before the play offs, kept it going after he said he wouldn't talk about it and continued it through the 2 games so my opinion of them is very low, but of course that is my opinion and I would not want to "stifle" anybody else's opinion on here. Agree with this too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 15 hours ago, ramone said: Never done anything after he's retired Isn't that exactly what retirement is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I don't buy this idea that this league was so much easier this season. You needed more points to make the top six and with Newcastle down that took one of the top spots. I think the top two spots will be a lot harder to predict next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling Wolfe Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: I don't buy this idea that this league was so much easier this season. You needed more points to make the top six and with Newcastle down that took one of the top spots. I think the top two spots will be a lot harder to predict next season. You're right, when Newcastle came down most on here said that's the top spot gone so there's one promotion place available. I don't see that this year. The three coming down this year are a lot less scary than Newcastle, Villa and Norwich for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 54 minutes ago, Owling Wolfe said: "The league was weaker than last season" did I hear that right. Wow, we had Newcastle with their treasure chest parachute payments and circa 50K crowds, Brighton who have been improving over the last 4 seasons, Villa who should have done better, Norwich (see villa comment), Derby and then the surprise packages that always appear. "We don't have a squad strong enough for the top 6" Ironically they have managed it for the last 2 seasons. Radio Sheffield United sticking the knife in as usual. Watson was talking out of his back side This has been the toughest league in years No stand out team doesn't mean it's weaker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Apart from saying we need 2 centrehalfs I pretty much agree with most of what he said . We were on sky one game and the 2 commentators virtually said the same . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etchesketch Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 17 hours ago, Big Ron's Sovereign said: Gordon Watson? Known for his dive against Leeds and..... 14 goals in 1993/94 despite not being the main striker. Top flight as well. Can't grumble at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) We said we needed pace and strength last season, but only really added Reach and Fletcher in the strength category. In my view it only needs tweaking here and there, but having the energy and mettle in there to deal with the likes of PNE, Burton, Huddersfield etc who are very intense off the ball is a must for a side wanting autos Edited May 21, 2017 by Bluesteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 22 minutes ago, Etchesketch said: 14 goals in 1993/94 despite not being the main striker. Top flight as well. Can't grumble at that. Stats can lie, he was average, bobbar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmeister Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Big Ron's Sovereign said: Stats can lie, he was average, bobbar. Wasn't great but a bit better than average bob bar IMO. Would have had a better and longer career but for that horrendous injury. Always a wee bit gobby but there is something in his recent comments. As usual with him though he has overstated things a tad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etchesketch Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Granted he was average for that level but you can't knock an achievement like that. Alongside Bright I thought he did a great job that season standing in for the injured Hirst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, hugeowl said: Apart from saying we need 2 centrehalfs I pretty much agree with most of what he said . We were on sky one game and the 2 commentators virtually said the same . So you think that a team which has finished in the top 6 for the past two seasons running contains a bunch of players who are "bottom half" Championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieowl Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Well spoken by Flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gparrish Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 I think he made a couple of valid points in there, especially with regards to aspects of the recruitment. You don't finish in the top 6 two seasons running if your team is full of bottom of the half players, that was a stupid comment, the sort of 'shock jock' rubbish you get on Talksport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobbo Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Owling Wolfe said: You're right, when Newcastle came down most on here said that's the top spot gone so there's one promotion place available. I don't see that this year. The three coming down this year are a lot less scary than Newcastle, Villa and Norwich for certain. The problem there is that 2 of those 3 clubs are still down here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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