Think tank Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 53 minutes ago, akbuk said: Give credit to Huddersfield they where at it from the start Absolutely mate, they deserve credit. They outplayed and outfought us, but don't really care about them, they have not got a better team than us, we just got it horribly, horribly wrong. Carlos set the tone with his tactics from the first minute of the first tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 10m on Rhodes but no investment in a substantial midfield . Fed up of hearing that we don't play that way. Carlos wrote a book so all is good hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Carlos has spent a grand total of two seasons in English football, during which time we've finished in the play offs twice. During that period he has made mistakes, and I believe the substitution of Fletcher last night was another. However, like anyone else in a new job, in a new environment, it is expected that he will make mistakes, the English game is unique, and a very difficult environment in which to play, with the Championship perhaps the hardest league in the World to get out of. So, there's an argument we need to shake things up, starting with a new manager, whilst at the same time, we have one already in place, who will continue to learn, and by definition, start to make fewer mistakes from a platform of two consecutive play off finishes. Money + quality players + patience = success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, Mishowl said: For me the issue has been his recruitment. Millions and millions spent on god knows how many players and we are still heavily reliant on the majority of the squad Gray put together on a shoestring. It's almost like players were signed with no plan on how we were going to play or how they would fit in. I wouldn't trust CC with another load of money and two (including January) transfer windows. Agree. Get a manager and then a plan. Recruit for that plan OR devise a plan with players we have. We have said it all season. Stop wasting money on players we never use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Had doubts about Carlos early in the season and then he seemed to turn it around. The biggest problem and what will ultimately cost Carlos is the insistence on playing Hutchinson, Bannan and Lee in the same side. It just does not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxondale Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 I know McClaren goes to a lot of games, but I'm slightly concerned about his presence the last 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 58 minutes ago, owls101 said: Go on, I'll bite......what have you heard? Currently managing and has links to us from his playing career. Not NP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Essix Blue said: Currently managing and has links to us from his playing career. Not NP Dean Smith?, where's Scram? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coyt Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mick said: Dean Smith?, where's Scram? I'd take him in a heartbeat. Gets his team's playing attacking positive football. Also he could bring Harley Dean with him at centre back and the lad Jota on the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ryebeena Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) "Currently managing and has links to us from his playing career. Not NP" Shezza Edited May 18, 2017 by Ryebeena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 (edited) 44 minutes ago, theowlsman said: Carlos has spent a grand total of two seasons in English football, during which time we've finished in the play offs twice. During that period he has made mistakes, and I believe the substitution of Fletcher last night was another. However, like anyone else in a new job, in a new environment, it is expected that he will make mistakes, the English game is unique, and a very difficult environment in which to play, with the Championship perhaps the hardest league in the World to get out of. So, there's an argument we need to shake things up, starting with a new manager, whilst at the same time, we have one already in place, who will continue to learn, and by definition, start to make fewer mistakes from a platform of two consecutive play off finishes. Money + quality players + patience = success. So why not simply get an English manager in with proven Championship record? Why employ a foreign coach who has had as many clubs as Rory is allowed to carry in his bag? Why should we need to wait for a coach to get his head round the English game? And why should we 'be patient'? And how many more players (costing many millions) do you think DC needs to buy to not end up with the team who played Hull in last season's PO final? The most important signing this Summer is a new manager. Edited May 18, 2017 by Almat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 21 minutes ago, Essix Blue said: Currently managing and has links to us from his playing career. Not NP Off top of my head that could be Garry Monk Paul Heckingbottom Dean Smith John Sheridan In england not sure on our foreign players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkerowl Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 10 hours ago, stocksyuto said: Bye bye forestieri i don't think we will keep hold of him Good! little tail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_77 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 CC cons - poor spending stubborness bad man management journeyman manager family in Portugal defensive play pros - wears nice jackets Seems a nice chap he managed sporting Lisbon for 6 weeks We won't get to the Premiership by boring teams to death, going for a draw has its place in a game but we've done it too much this season and it's bit us on the arse. For some reason we don't have the ability to attack confidently, we are too scared to go forward with fear of making a mistake, the end result is what we have today. Ive said it before, we play like England, individual brilliance but won't gel together. Backwards passing, side to side and scared to run at a man. Last night summed up with the throw in at the edge of their area which ended up back to Westwood. No surprise that young coaches have done well over the years We've plumped with a journey man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, Ryebeena said: "Currently managing and has links to us from his playing career. Not NP" Shezza No. Its come one from a good contact who I believe what he tells me. Whether it happens or not who knows, but he seems confident plans are in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob1601 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Garry Monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Think overall CC has done an ok job but think time for him to move on. Play offs are the games where a manager proves his worth and weather he can get that edge over the opposition. We have played 5 games in the play off under him and only played well once and found really lacking at Wembley last season and both times against Huddersfield this season when on paper we had comfortably the better team. I can see argument about stability but Watford a club we are trying to emulate but getting promoted and staying in the Premier League charge coaches quite frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 On 18/05/2017 at 07:07, Saxondale said: The story a few months ago was that Carlos would be leaving at the end of the season no matter what happens. Due to personal, family reasons he was returning home to his family in Portugal. I think the recent confusion with his contract has been a part of this also. I think in the coming days there will be an announcement of an amicable parting of ways, not a sacking, but Carlos just not renewing his contract. To be honest I would like him to stay, it will feel like starting again from scratch if he goes. And a month later Forestieri wanted to move back down south for family reasons. He's In The Know you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxondale Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Geoffrey said: And a month later Forestieri wanted to move back down south for family reasons. He's In The Know you know. You have got a serious problem with me haven't you pal? Sat for hours digging up posts, get a life ffs. Edited July 2, 2017 by Saxondale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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