Porksword73 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Access and parking is key to any stadium and Hillsborough has neither Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoadABallacks Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Would never happen, but pie in the sky thinking would be demolishing the exiting stadium and rebuilding it in Hillsborough Park and as per of the "imaginary" deal, redevelop the then old stadium into a new park with new facilities etc. Community therefore still has a park that was better than before and we have a new ground in the same location with more space for commercial benefits. As i say, it would never happen, but would be ideal. Wherever a new ground is located, transport links are usually crap anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Another thing. A large number of Wedneday supporters already live locally in areas including Hillsborough, Middlewood, Oughtibridge, Wharncliffe Side, Worrall, Bradfield, Stannington, Walkley, Parson Cross, Upperthorpe etc- many of these supporters already travel by foot, bus or Tram - very few traditional supporters live locally to a stadium at the East End - imagine how many people would have to travel to the new ground- as apposed to the amount that already live locally to Hillsborough? How would the road network be able to cope with that - alongside Meadowhall, Retail Park Ikea etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Another thing. A large number of Wedneday supporters already live locally in areas including Hillsborough, Middlewood, Oughtibridge, Wharncliffe Side, Worrall, Bradfield, Stannington, Walkley, Parson Cross, Upperthorpe etc- many of these supporters already travel by foot, bus or Tram - very few traditional supporters live locally to a stadium at the East End - imagine how many people would have to travel to the new ground- as apposed to the amount that already live locally to Hillsborough? How would the road network be able to cope with that - alongside Meadowhall, Retail Park Ikea etc? As you said it's a not feasible to move to the East End it offers little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesWalker Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Nail on the head there Viola , same in regards to everything at HIS club / toy / business, he isn't interested in the fans views, the heritage of the club or the heritage of the fans, he wants to be in the Premiership and he will go all out to achieve this as the fact is he's the person that benefits financial from it , promotion is worth 200million, not a bad return on a maximum investment of 60-80 million over a 28 month period, all fans can do is enjoy the ride seeing his financial aspirations come to fruition , the days of Wednesday being and feeling like a fans club are over , I'm not knocking the bloke, he's invested like we all wanted and we a chasing promotion for the second season on the bounce but nobody should kid themselves that any of their opinions or ideas, can or would influence the owner, he knows, what he wants, how he'll get it and the style of kit we'lll be wearing when / whilst we do it, the die has been cast . See I can't agree with this... He holds fans forums to gauge the views of a range of supporters. He doesn't have to do this and it appears some decent stuff comes out of it. I've never been to one so can't comment on his style - whether he is actually engaging with the fans or just paying it lip service. The badge, yes he's changed the badge, but he's changed it to a revised historical version. The kit, blue and white. Yes he's stated he doesn't like stripes. However, this years kit is based on a version from 1960's and the style mooted last night is one from around the same era. The promotional video released a few months back, the planned (albeit secretly so far) celebrations for this year. Owls in the park, he publicly stated he really enjoyed seeing the fans, local community and family being together all because of Sheffield Wednesday. The video and minutes silence for the king of Thailand - this demonstrates to me he is a very proud, loyal man. Family orientated and a traditionalist. Yes the ticket prices are too high, yes not everyone likes the kit, but to state he isn't interested in the heritage of the club is absolute nonsense. Of course he could decide next week he doesn't like blue or owls and change our colour to red and change our nickname and do this all privately without consulting the fans. However, nothing so far suggests he will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
442 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Not totally against leaving Hillsborough, the stadium. But I'm totally against leaving the Hillsborough area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroswfc Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 For years they've had the attendance at 39,859. It's a bit late to be worried about health and safety when nothing has happened for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I love Hillsborough and was an avid believer of staying but I think a new stadium in the city centre Would be great for both us and the city centre. If we construct it so it includes bars / restaurants and room for conferences then we woulc rake it in midweek too & pay for itself. Make it a real destination New stadia - especially ones of any significant size - don't get built in city centres any more. It's difficult for transport, it's difficult to police, it's difficult to build. There are only one or two exceptions to the rule, such as Southampton, but that was a bleak industrial area on the side of a river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Winn Gardens estate is annoyingly bang in the middle between our training ground and middlewood park. That stretch of land is absolutely massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 See I can't agree with this... He holds fans forums to gauge the views of a range of supporters. He doesn't have to do this Actually - yes he does. Fans Forums with a representative group of the clubs fans are a requirement of the Football League. It is the Leagues directive that ALL clubs must hold an absolute minimum of 2 of these per season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Winn Gardens estate is annoyingly bang in the middle between our training ground and middlewood park. That stretch of land is absolutely massive. The club could buy Niagara Sports Grounds, and combine this and the Training ground to make a huge piece of land (albeit with a river running right through the middle of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lʍO‾ǝsnoɥpooM Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Where in the city centre could we build? Sure theres some land up for sale around bramall lane, Mccabe always seems keen to sell anything. would be funny to turf them out and build a massive ground on top of it. Not realistic but would be funny to see the meltdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimisticowl Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Rather redevelope Hillsborough than move to a new stadium. I agree 100%, would a new stadium away from Hillsborough, built to modern safety standards, be safer than a totally redeveloped Hillsborough stadium built to exactly the same safety standards, I think not? Just remember that South Yorkshire Police are totally anti Hillsborough Stadium, along with council officials of the red and white inclination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesWalker Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Actually - yes he does. Fans Forums with a representative group of the clubs fans are a requirement of the Football League. It is the Leagues directive that ALL clubs must hold an absolute minimum of 2 of these per season Does the Chairman have to attend and how many a season do we hold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Does the Chairman have to attend and how many a season do we hold? Pretty sure there is no compulsion for the Chairman to attend. But as he essentially fills the Chief Exec role in the absence of us employing one - it would seem pretty pointless to hold one without him. Think we held 3 this season (happy to stand corrected if thats not right? Anybody know?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Not a chance within the time frame. No proposals have been asked for and no planning permission submitted yet. A new stand is easily 1-2 years work just at the planning and consulting stage, then construction would be anywhere from 6 months to a year. talking 2-3 years before anything, and theres been no chatter about this anywhere in the industry Southampton hadn't even settled on a site for their new ground in the spring of 1999, yet an entire 30k+ stadium was designed, built and ready by the start of the 2001/2 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoadABallacks Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) Norton/Dronfield way could be a possibility? Large flat areas in Sheffield seem to be rare. It would have to be on the outskirts you would have thought, Cost wise though, i'd assume land to the north or east of Sheffield is considerably cheaper. Edited April 13, 2017 by LoadABallacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadsleyOwl Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Norton/Dronfield way could be a possibility? Large flat areas in Sheffield seem to be rare. It would have to be on the outskirts you would have thought, Rather be next to M1Junction 33 then this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 If done properly I'd welcome a new ground. However I'd hate to end up with something resembling the riverside, king power or the KC stadium. A smaller version of the etihad or emirates would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 There's lots of flat land in Lincolnshire, maybe we could pick some of that up cheap. Have a purpose built rail line put in that departs from Sheffield Central direct so transport need not be an issue. Best of all, if we built a huge shiny bowl shaped arena out of cheap materials then the atmosphere is bound to improve tenfold with all the extra fans we'll attract who like new things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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