modboy Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/newcastle-united-fans-hit-out-as-embarrassing-ticket-allocation-for-sheffield-wednesday-clash-1-8446003 2.5k tickets for them, genuine WTF, all that lost income etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 The segregation at Hillsborough has gone beyond a joke. We need clear and definitive reasoning from the authorities as to why we are the most segregated ground in the country. I'd guess we have to segregate more seats for EVERY game than any others do for even their biggest games. The netting at the bottom of the South stand is a complete and utter joke. Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 They've been whinging about getting ripped off and now they're whinging that not enough of them are getting ripped off? Righto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 They have a point. What will it take to end this nonsense. Our club is getting a seriously bad reputation for pisstaking. Even if it is SYP and SAG puling the strings we should at least be focussing on fairness to the pricing of tickets for football fans coming to visit Hillsborough IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 when we get to the PL its going to be ridiculous I dont understand why they have become so cautious all of a sudden. Not so long ago that away teams had top and bottom areas of the LL end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattitheowl Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, modboy said: when we get to the PL its going to be ridiculous I dont understand why they have become so cautious all of a sudden. Not so long ago that away teams had top and bottom areas of the LL end It seems to me that rather than SYP doing their job properly they'd rather just put such tight restrictions in place they don't have to bother. Should be able to put away in the top of the Lep and home in the bottom and have no bother. Newcastle aren't exactly animals, we've no rivalry with them. I get that the segregation in the North is for H&S reasons around exits but what's the excuse on the south stand and the corners of the bottom of the Lep and the top of the Lep. You'd have to be Spiderman to get from the top of the Lep to a Wednesday fan in the North or South stand! Just not bothered... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Celtic vs Rangers. One of the fiercest local rivalries and they were in the same stand, separated by a line of stewards and netting covering a small section of seats. In this country that should be as extreme as it gets. Why can't we have our full allocation when we need it? Why do lengthy discussions have to take place? Why can't Newcastle bring their whole allocation but Leeds could? SYP are lowering our stadium's official capacity by the minute it seems! And why, when we have a corner, do a line of stewards have walk to stand behind the goal being attacked? Even against Burton Albion who brought a coach load of people? What possibly can they be stopping? It really is mental. Obviously the Hillsborough Disaster is the reason. But it's still mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 It'll be an initial allocation with further tickets being made available should they sell those. I don't see what the problem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Why is it SAG's fault that our ground is seemingly unfit for purpose. Surely that's down to years of mismanagement and zero investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niallzi Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 There is nothing wrong with the west end of the ground, but SYP and the SAG just will not run the risk of anything of the slightest magnitude going wrong due to their rep for what happened in 89'. They've claimed "the concourses are too small so we have to restrict numbers to 3,100 on the top and 1,500 on the bottom". What a load of $hite, been on the bottom tier back in January and the concourse floorspace is bigger than the seating area. They ought to take a trip to Pride Park or Turf Moor and see how compact their concourses are, but seemingly have no trouble in allowing 3 or 4 thousand people to use them. Bottom line we're being unfairly treated by incompetent forces who are more bothered about their own reputation than they are the interests of the football supporters. We have a ground with nearly 40,000 seats, and in January we had a "sell out" crowd of 30,500. That right there should be enough to convince anyone that things need to change, especially for when we go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 the silver lining in all of this is that it will accelerate the demolition of that whole stand sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeroswfc Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 There's nothing wrong with the ground. Just give them the full allocation. It's hardly going to fall down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Thewaynesday said: Yeah because we are the only club that charge so much ......... Well it's a point you have, but I'm concerned more with our own club's ineffective resistance to external politics. At least, that is the conclusion I have personally arrived after a lot of reading into the situation. Edited March 19, 2017 by F. Spiksley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 20 minutes ago, Animis said: the silver lining in all of this is that it will accelerate the demolition of that whole stand sooner rather than later. Perhaps, but it shouldn't be a driver in any redevelopment requirement. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 29 minutes ago, FlyingOwl said: Celtic vs Rangers. One of the fiercest local rivalries and they were in the same stand, separated by a line of stewards and netting covering a small section of seats. In this country that should be as extreme as it gets. Why can't we have our full allocation when we need it? Why do lengthy discussions have to take place? Why can't Newcastle bring their whole allocation but Leeds could? SYP are lowering our stadium's official capacity by the minute it seems! And why, when we have a corner, do a line of stewards have walk to stand behind the goal being attacked? Even against Burton Albion who brought a coach load of people? What possibly can they be stopping? It really is mental. Obviously the Hillsborough Disaster is the reason. But it's still mental. This . As you have mentioned Celtic and rangers in the same stand separated by stewards. Was the same when we were at Newcastle on Boxing Day. that stand holds around 7000 fans there is no reason why it can't be sold out . This constant rubbish about safety is beyond a joke . The stadium has been in its current format for around 25 years with no problems . This countries obsession with health and safety is pathetic. Its also unfortunate that Sheffield Wednesday happens to be in the area policed by the biggest set of clowns ever to wear the uniform as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 In 50 years of watching wednesday we have been ripped off so many times allocation and price wise do I give a dam what we do with newcastle or any other away fans no I don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Half hope loads of Newcastle fans go in home areas and trouble ensues. Might make people question 1000s of empty seats in a sold out away end, plus ludicrous pricing preventing home sell out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxOwl Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Any idea why the Syp/sag morons have gone even more mental than usual over the last year or so? Have they got worried seeing us quite close to the PL and thought they'd better get their restrictions in early so they won't have to manage 35k+ crowds every week if/when we get there? Just about sums the Sheffield authorities up though. We've got a club with a new, ambitious investor but instead of helping us succeed and flourish they start piling on the restrictions to make life as difficult as possible. Meanwhile, the wee wee throwers and firework launchers from S2 can use their stadium with nothing like our problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 God knows what's going to happen if/when we play Sheffield United at home next season. An allocation of 50 away fans & we're only allocated the Kop but not the first 10 rows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kameron Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 SAG and SYP need to justify why these restrictions are constantly put in place, what has changed since the 90's when the full stand was used with home supporters being in the lower sections of the stand. I get the slightly reduced capacities of the North and South stands and the club needs to get it's arse in gear and get the work done but there is no justification for not allowing the full West stand to be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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