We'llNeverBeMastered Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Who even cares if they are a bigger club? I'm just proud to be a Wednesdayite, wouldn't change it for the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAWAWestwood Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, Ryan the owl said: Who even cares if they are a bigger club? I'm just proud to be a Wednesdayite, wouldn't change it for the world! Agreed mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We'llNeverBeMastered Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, WAWAWestwood said: Agreed mate I don't get it, there's gonna be clubs bigger, there's going to be better teams, there's going to be clubs with more fans. I couldn't care about all that, there's no place I'd rather be stood than with a few thousand Wednesdayites, rocking an away ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 can leeds really lay claim to bratfurd as a club catchment area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zed Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) 33 minutes ago, WAWAWestwood said: Sheffield isn't big enough to be honest Doubt we'd get most from there, we'd take all the new glory hunters from surrounding areas. Worked in Chesie for example, hardly any Wednesday there, all Man Utd and Liverpool, that kinda locale would become bigtime Wednesday if we got a decent team. Edited January 17, 2017 by Zed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendaryswan Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) As has been said elswhere,leeds were quite a force under Revie for around a decade,prior to that they were nothing of note and since the mid 70s theyve lived on past glories of that infamous Revie era,apart from a brief resurgance under o leary that left them where theyve been ever since,in the mire with us. There a simular size to us in all honesty,our rivalry with our neighbours has always held both clubs back really in terms of support,while leeds can call on european honours during their golden days we have more domestic honours. I think you could argue attandance wise on any given saturday more sheffield people would be watching football in the city if you took both sides bieng at home as opposed to the one club in leeds. Edited January 17, 2017 by legendaryswan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patient zero Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Can't stand them but one Leeds statistic stands out for me, that record European cup crowd away at Celtic 136,505 I mean blimey... (Pretty much all Celtic fans admitted). Had a flick through their history book in a bookshop in Leeds and TBF if you read through their memorable matches section from the Revie era, it is pretty impressive, league titles, cup finals and huge European matches whilst in the Wednesday version our memorable match of that era was avoiding relegation to the fourth division by beating Southend. That's well in the past now admittedly and to me we are pretty much on a par ATM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eguin Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 At the end of the day, the majority of Leeds fans are yobs. I'm sure there are some decent fans but most follow them for their reputation of being 'tuff' ...hooligans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I think Leeds is the 3rd largest city in the UK, Sheffield 5th just behind Glasgow. What is noticeable; apart from Bradford, all the major cities top 10 at least, all have at least 2 football teams playing pro football in their respective leagues. In real terms Leeds support is fairly poor, in context they should be able to achieve 60k regularly in comparison with other major cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 14 hours ago, Soul Power said: Its a No from me. Having worked in Leeds I know for a fact with the success they had relatively recently they have attracted a large number of fans who are not neccessarily from Leeds. Their away support comes from all over the country due to this success. If we had achieved the same level of success over the past 50 years our crowds now would blow them out of the water. They also have a significant lunatic fringe which attracts further idiots, this lot are still living in the 70's and 80's. The last sentence is a fact End of thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticOwl Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 What makes a club big? Titles? Top flight status? Attendances? History? A combination of them all? To me what makes a club big is the titles and players who have played for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 hours ago, WAWAWestwood said: Hardly 'massive' Not a good year to pick that. Wilson was way out of his depth from minute 1, we were on a downward spiral. As can be seen in that the top scorer was Beni on 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manchester_Owl Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Leeds are not bigger than Wednesday. They are both similar in size and depending on external factors such as; division, how the club is run, how successful they are at the time, will depend on who gets the bigger gates. In terms of support around the country, yes they have support all around, but so do we. Admittedly I look out for it more, but I've seen far more Wednesday fans in Manchester than Leeds fans. I'm also not using one club city of catchment area as an excuse. The bottom line is that on any given day we can match or beat their support, irrespective of blade fans. I couldn't have that confidence with Man u, Liverpool or Arsenal. And for the record Villa are without shadow of a doubt the biggest club in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manchester_Owl Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Leeds are not bigger than Wednesday. They are both similar in size and depending on external factors such as; division, how the club is run, how successful they are at the time, will depend on who gets the bigger gates. In terms of support around the country, yes they have support all around, but so do we. Admittedly I look out for it more, but I've seen far more Wednesday fans in Manchester than Leeds fans. I'm also not using one club city of catchment area as an excuse. The bottom line is that on any given day we can match or beat their support, irrespective of blade fans. I couldn't have that confidence with Man u, Liverpool or Arsenal. And for the record Villa are without shadow of a doubt the biggest club in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincolnowl Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Leeds are bigger than us, but like us they are nowhere near as big as they think. Away support is excellent. Home support is just ok. Theyve had a few periods of success, but that quickly subsided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikka Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) Are L##DS a far bigger club than us ? Does anyone really care? They gained a reputation in the 70's and 80's for being a team willing to adopt underhand tactics to win at any price - which they have never shaken off - causing them to be disliked by most people outside Leeds to this day . Most people have been delighted to see them struggle for the last 10 or more years . Edited January 18, 2017 by kikka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 roger 'em. But couldn't help but think the PL is better off with them (and us). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 16 hours ago, asteener1867 said: Really?, which away games have you been to where they sing about Leeds?...I can't remember many 14 hours ago, asteener1867 said: Ok mate...Anyone on here that watches Sky super Sunday etc...How many times have you heard fans of other clubs singin' about Leeds when they are not playing Leeds....80% of 'em? Just for the sake of fairness, you never said anything about fans of other clubs signing about Leeds when they weren't playing Leeds, you said fans of other clubs don't sing about Leeds full stop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OasisOwl72 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 On 17/01/2017 at 07:52, zico.b said: Leeds facts for the debate. League Titles - 3 (SWFC - 4) FA Cup - 1 (SWFC - 3) League Cup - 1 (SWFC - 1) Ground - Rented (SWFC - Owned) Average Attendance - 26,040 (SWFC - 26,894) City Rivals Average Attendance - One Team City (SUFC - 20,141) This Seasons in top division SWFC 66-50 LUFC Highest Average Attendance SWFC 42,634 – 39,752 LUFC Are Leeds far bigger than us? No, no they aren’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWL1969 Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 16 hours ago, selbyowls said: 1991-1992 The season Leeds won championship, 2nd Manchester United, 3rd Owls<last season before prem> No. Club Div Average 1 Manchester United 1 44.984 4,1% 2 Liverpool 1 34.799 -3,4% 3 Arsenal 1 31.905 -13,5% 4 Sheffield Wednesday 1 29.560 11,1% 5 Leeds United 1 29.459 0,5% 6 Tottenham Hotspur 1 27.761 -9,4% 7 Manchester City 1 27.690 -0,7% 8 Aston Villa 1 24.818 -3,3% 9 Nottingham Forest 1 23.721 7,2% 10 Everton 1 23.148 -7,5% 11 Sheffield United 1 22.097 3,0% 12 West Ham United 1 21.342 -5,4% 13 Newcastle United 2 21.148 25,6% 14 Chelsea 1 18.686 -9,9% 15 Sunderland 2 18.390 -18,5% 16 Crystal Palace 1 17.618 -10,4% 17 Leicester City 2 15.202 31,7% 18 Oldham Athletic 1 15.087 13,9% 19 Middlesbrough 2 14.703 -13,6% 20 Derby County 2 14.664 -9,8% 21 Ipswich Town 2 14.274 21,3% 22 Southampton 1 14.070 -8,7% 23 Coventry City 1 13.876 0,6% 24 Norwich City 1 13.858 -10,4% 25 Wolverhampton Wanderers 2 13.743 -13,2% 26 Queens Park Rangers 1 13.592 0,5% 27 Blackburn Rovers 2 13.250 63,1% 28 Stoke City 3 13.007 12,5% 29 West Bromwich Albion 3 12.711 6,0% 30 Birmingham City 3 12.400 76,4 Nothing to do with the Leeds debate, but think this shows how the timing of our demise has affected us, other than us, Blades, Leeds and Forest (the clubs who have spent a while outside the PL) all the other "big" clubs average attendances have grown by at least 50%, with many growing by over 100%, ours has held up well all things considered, but had we stayed in the PL during the sky tv/football boom years and our growth continued in line with other similar sized clubs, we would have had to either move to larger stadium or (preferably) have extended the capacity of Hillsborough to keep up with the demand of our supporters. Hopefully we are finally on our way back and will be able to compete with some of these clubs who think they overtaken us and left us behind very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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