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  1. the bouncing day massacre

    Wembley wasn't a massacre and neither was Sunday. We could have won 10-1 they could have won 5/6 -2, but that didn't happen. A true massacre doesn't have coulda/woulda/shouldas. They have the ruthlessness of doing the job good and proppa. BDM was exactly that. Don't give them the false satisfaction that this was anything more than a good beating. That's all it was. A good beating. History remains in tact. Just.
  2. the bouncing day massacre

    flipping scrubbers. Desperate or what. They won by 2 goals. They get the bragging rights, but thats about it. A massacre is officially a 4 plus goal margin. Don't give any reason to think this was a massacre, was it roger.
  3. Time to shine FF

    Repeat Oh Forestieri, oh Forestieri! Stop whining, we have the best squad on the division.
  4. Forestieri to Fulham 12m

    I find it interesting that most believe FF had a bad season last year. When in reality he scored the most goals and had most assist in a team that finished 4th. He was the difference in games in the VIlla, Forest, Cardiff matches (off the top of my head). That's 9 points. He has a better injury record than most of our key players. 12 million is not enough for our (arguably) best player for a team that want to get promoted this season. Also a team that finished in the playoffs twice, with one final and one 4th place finish. 20 million is an amount I would consider, as I believe that we could/may be bring in two players of quality. Anything less and it's a waste. Thankfully our Chairman is quite stubborn when it comes to prices, so if he says 20 mil that's what it will be our he won't be going anywhere. But what really needs to stop is the negativity towards FF, it does us no good. If we don't sell we ain't making him happy, if we sell we are bringing his price down. 30 + pages of nonsense.
  5. All this Forestieri rubbish from Carlos

    Last night's match and second half of QPR would have suited FF. As I've mentioned in another thread our best formation with the squad players we have is 433. This actually keeps most players happy. (FF) (Hooper) (Winnall/Fletcher/Rhodes) And with Jones as DM giving more protection we will win more games than lose or draw. The issue I have is that we've gone to this formation through force of injuries. Will Carlos set us up like this from the start is yet to be seen.
  6. Lucas Joao vs Jordan Rhodes

    We have 6 strikers. If you don't score and miss an open net you must be dropped. He also should have scored the other chance in the first half.
  7. Forestieri not in the squad

    You keep on referring back to his antics last season. Ok let's do that, just so that we can get everything into perspective, but let's include everything, right!? Was our top scorer season 1. Fact. Was our most exciting player first season 1. Subjective. Was our most dangerous player season 1. Subjective. Has been photographed watching the development squad, season 1. Fact. Refused to play against Villa. Season 2. Speculation. Played against Villa season 2. Fact. Scored against Villa season 2, despite speculation of him not wanting to play. Fact. Was on less money than Fletcher, despite being our main player and not being happy about it. Speculation. Refused to Travel to play against against Norwich season 2. Speculation/fact. Made to apologise to the fans. Fact Apologised to the fans and the club. Fact. Made to look like a wounded dog season 2. Subjective. Was the top goal scorer season 2. Fact. Was our most exciting player season 2. Subjective. Missed pen at Brighton away where the whole side crumbled despite having a real opportunity to get 3 points from a promotion rival. Fact. When benched at Newcastle at home (due to injuries) was dying to get on the pitch. Season 2. Fact. Scored a cracking goal at Forest away showing determination and desire to succeed. Season 2. Subjective. Jumped into the away crowed when he scored at Forest away. Season 2. Fact. Scored a flying header against Cardiff at home to beat Warnocks ridged side. Season 2. Fact. Missed pen in the playoffs. Fact. Came back/rushed from an injury in the playoffs. Speculation. Was one of our better players Preston away. Season 3. Subjective. Refused to play wide left. Season 3 Speculation. Manager states he did not refuse to play out wide. Fact. He tracks back more than most players. Season 1/2/3. Subjective. He had an altercation with another player over a bad/late tackle season 3. Speculation. He was dropped from the squad yesterday because of that altercation Speculation. Now..... Go through that list and weigh up the facts against the speculations and the subjective views. You may come to the conclusion that your treatment or should I say anger towards Fernando Forestieri is an overreaction. It's the type of overaction (because of how social media gets us close to the players) drives the players out of the club. This is only reason why I'm even bothering replying to some of you. As I hope to dilute the guilty first ask questions last mentality.
  8. Forestieri not in the squad

    And how do you know that?
  9. Winall and Fletcher??

    Yup. João has scored more for Sheffield Wednesday than Rhodes. Rhodes should have scored two yesterday. Other strikers also perform well with João. You can even have FF in a top 2 with João. Had João missed that Rhodes chance yesterday off the line for it to go over the bar (similar to Brentford away last season) then everyone would have gone batsh1t crazy. He offers pace.
  10. Winall and Fletcher??

    I didn't go to the Chesterfield match so I can't comment on Abdi. I think Jones steadies the midfield, I thought he played alright when he came on yesterday (I know that's not the popular opinion).
  11. Winall and Fletcher??

    He's been our top goal scorer for two seasons in a row. I've also put him in a top 3 on the left. We should be playing 433 with Jones and Hooper playing DM and in the hole respectively.
  12. Winall and Fletcher??

    On evidence so far..... This is my team. Westwood Hunt Lees Pudil Reach Jones Bannan Boyd Hooper Winnall Forestieri Bench Wildsmith Palmer Loovens Hutchinson Abdi Fletcher João Not made Bench Rhodes Nuhihu Wallace Dawson Fox Matias
  13. Forestieri not in the squad

    He's our top goal scorer for the last two seasons for a start. Arguably Lee is a better midfield player, but Lee has a big injury problem. Forestieri for me is the first name on the team sheet.
  14. Forestieri not in the squad

    Has it ever come across to you that the altercation between FF and Winnall is a good thing? From what I see from those two players is when they are on the pitch they both give their all and want to score and win. Both are selfish and me personally would play them both at the same time. Being temperamental is not a problem, not knowing how to manage that temper is.