David1867 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Holmes said: To the fans who have seen him play in your judgement would you rate him as a good prospect if his name was Smith? Genuine question. Iv seen him play numerous times and have been impressed. Jordan Lonchar on the other hand, has scored more for the u18s and definitely has created more and nobody mentions him. So yes 100% the name clouds judgement for some, but top premier league clubs won't care less who his dad was. Edited January 11, 2017 by David1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl_in_Oz Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 If they want him tell 'em they'll have to pay what his dad would be worth in today's game - £50m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, Lee A said: He's a good prospect regardless of what his name is, he's mobile and a good finisher, just needs to keep learning and developing physically more than anything. However, if his name was Smith, I doubt there'd be many people saying he should be getting a game in the first team at this stage. Patience no longer exists in football. If his name was Smith he might've been given more of a chance? It's a big name on the back of his shirt. As for the post earlier about loaning him out, it's a No from me. Keep him here and give him a few sub appearances, starts if he earns em. Much rather have a young hungry exciting prospect that loves / supports the club bursting on from the bench than what we normally use. Just try to imagine what it'll do for him if he scores his 1st professional goal at Hillsborough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMOwl72 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 If the teenager at Charlton went to Everton for £11m the club hopefully will realise what he might be worth given some first team experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhgate Owl Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Depends what his ambitions are if its to make a fortune and never play a game ,go to Chelsea if its to play in the odd cup game but end up at a Southampton etc in 5 years time,go to arsenal. If its to be a idol like ya dad at a club that gave you that chance ,stay a Wednesday most will choose option A but we will have to see .he's what 17 years old .got time on his side and plenty of time to make a good career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1867 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, Greenhgate Owl said: Depends what his ambitions are if its to make a fortune and never play a game ,go to Chelsea if its to play in the odd cup game but end up at a Southampton etc in 5 years time,go to arsenal. If its to be a idol like ya dad at a club that gave you that chance ,stay a Wednesday most will choose option A but we will have to see .he's what 17 years old .got time on his side and plenty of time to make a good career This Is the problem with football, if my son got offered the chance I would probably encourage him to take option A, especially at 17 years old as the flip side could be that he may stagnate and never properly make it. Whereas if he takes the money at least he is set up for life. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 the lad should stay where he is and learn the trade and relish the fact that he got a chance to be part of team his dad played for.many would give their right arm to be in that position .That said if he only got the chance because of his name then that will be found out in the long run ,any way whatever happens good luck to him , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 In an ideal world he continues to develop here with us and - when the time is right - breaks into the first team. Would be a crying shame if he's hoovered up by one of the top clubs and is then spewed out a few years later if he hasn't made the grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I think, eventually, he'll end up leaving if top end PL teams want him. In the mean time I wouldn't mind loaning him to someone like Donny for the remainder of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee A Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Donny are looking likely champions in their division, he might aswell sit on our bench as much as theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I'm not in for loans, but maybe Dingles as part of the Winnall deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhgate Owl Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 42 minutes ago, David1867 said: This Is the problem with football, if my son got offered the chance I would probably encourage him to take option A, especially at 17 years old as the flip side could be that he may stagnate and never properly make it. Whereas if he takes the money at least he is set up for life. Just my opinion. I agree mate .its a short career in football.id chase the money while its there .Any of the top clubs would give you wages that teams like Wednesday just couldn't afford to hand out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 52 minutes ago, David1867 said: This Is the problem with football, if my son got offered the chance I would probably encourage him to take option A, especially at 17 years old as the flip side could be that he may stagnate and never properly make it. Whereas if he takes the money at least he is set up for life. Just my opinion. Your spot on mate, take the money worry about the rest later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Jesus the son of God is not for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 It's good that he's in and around the first team with training and on matchdays. I personally don't want him thrown into the first team picture regularly yet, he's too young. Just think though of the experience he must be picking up in training from the likes of Fletcher, Forestieri and Hooper. On top of that he's got his dad to lean on for advice too. Maybe the odd sub appearance between now and the end of the season would be good for him but not regularly. Then next season depending on what league we are in we can give him more football or loan him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 No need to loan him out ,keep him in the fringes of the first team and gradually introduce him ,if he's good enough he will force his way into the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, akbuk said: No need to loan him out ,keep him in the fringes of the first team and gradually introduce him ,if he's good enough he will force his way into the team If we are in the PL next season I'd loan him out to the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adem Poric Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Everton I'd say. A scout was there at the youth cup game I know for a fact Everton have been watching Lonchar. Apparently they think he's the better player in that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offalyowl Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 People say he not ready for the first team but when you think about it marcos rashford wasn't ready either for Man U but look how he doing, u won't know till you try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1867 Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Adem Poric said: I know for a fact Everton have been watching Lonchar. Apparently they think he's the better player in that group. They might not be far wrong with that opinion mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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