areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, camffiti said: We've known for awhile that Fernando is likely to leave ... and we'll be scratching around for a replacement on deadline day Have we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerwyldesmullet Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, swfc1983 said: Oh aye can see him and Fessi getting on like a house on fire. Pay Ben Pearson what he wants and then give Fessi a grand a week more. Sorted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Why do people say ff doesn't wanna play again? He was class in December then one bad game against wolves and he's crap and doesn't wanna play? We don't want to get rid off ff for Rhodes we want them both ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 'We've known for a while ff is leaving ' why? Chansiri has said many times nobody is for sale ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, vulva said: What, getting rid of a player who doesn't want to play for us, another who isn't good enough and another who has had more injuries than Evil Knievel, and replacing them with and prolific goal scorer at this level, and a young promising full back. And making and savings a few quid. Sounds like great business to me. How can you be so sure Forestieri doesn't want to play for us? Have you asked him? I'm willing to bet 20 quid he'll be a Wednesday player come February 1st. 26 minutes ago, camffiti said: Probably logical / guesswork from Nixon We've known for awhile that Fernando is likely to leave ... and we'll be scratching around for a replacement on deadline day Ditto, no-one knows anything, and if you think you know, you know less than the rest of us.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, BarnsleyOwl96 said: 'We've known for a while ff is leaving ' why? Chansiri has said many times nobody is for sale ? I think only FF leaving will trigger any big-money signing up front. I always thought FF is similar to McCormack as a player, but may be a better fit to the system/club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Copthorneowl Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 27 minutes ago, BIG D said: No one is mentioning FF leaving apart from people on here Thank goodness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waddleisgod Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I just can't see FF leaving this window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Forestieri is a class above anything else in this division, Matias and Joao have potential to be very good players. Rhodes is a goalscorer, and a mid table championship player. We are slowly strangling the flair that made us so refreshing last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Copthorneowl Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 24 minutes ago, JaddyOwl said: I agree get rid of Fessi and wave tgis season and next season goodbye everyone blames forestieri when things are off. The mans injured and still trying to play. The rest of the team look weak without him in 95% of the games. Carlos always implores a unit mentality we are Wednesday! But the rest of the team are slow and predictable without him. Bannan is much sharper and drives forward when hes in. When he plays on the left he gives width, pace and an extra line of defence because he may lose balls but how many other players run all the way back just to win the ball back off the opposition. I fear with everyone on his back we will push him out rather than it been that he wants to leave. We know hes a temperamental player so nurture him not force his hand. Some players require the hard stick but I think he needs an arm round him with reassurance. Lets get off his back and encourage his impact and skill on our team.... Excellent post but don't hold your breath the anti FF brigade can't seem to see how losing him will impact on us, at the end of the day I suppose it's just opinions but what a terrific player to keep hammering .......takes all sorts I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 36 minutes ago, Copthorneowl said: Excellent post but don't hold your breath the anti FF brigade can't seem to see how losing him will impact on us, at the end of the day I suppose it's just opinions but what a terrific player to keep hammering .......takes all sorts I suppose. Some folks won't be happy until we've created the Blackburn team of a few years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBOwl Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Copthorneowl said: Excellent post but don't hold your breath the anti FF brigade can't seem to see how losing him will impact on us, at the end of the day I suppose it's just opinions but what a terrific player to keep hammering .......takes all sorts I suppose. I don't want forestieri out, but a forestieri who isn't bothered and not putting 100% in isn't worth playing. Why should we pander to him just because he's our best player? As Carlos says, we are Sheffield Wednesday. No player is more important than the others and he expects the same commitment from the whole team. If we start making exceptions for FF just because he's the most talented what message does that send out to the rest of the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Forestieri is a class above anything else in this division, Matias and Joao have potential to be very good players. Rhodes is a goalscorer, and a mid table championship player. We are slowly strangling the flair that made us so refreshing last season. Last season he was. This year, we've squeezed half a dozen performances out of him. As for Joao and Matias...yes, potential. But, potential won't get us promoted. 18 months on, do they look like key components of a promotion-winning side? One needs to toughen up in every respect, the other is rarely fit enough to even take the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Some people want FF to leave so badly it will become a self fulfilling prophecy. we are not good enough without that kind of player. The club should be moving mountains to look for similar types of players to make his absence less conspicuous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Copthorneowl Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: Some folks won't be happy until we've created the Blackburn team of a few years ago Yep first player we've had with real skill and a bit a magic in his feet since the Italian lads and the naysayers just can't lay off him. If Dc has shown anything at all its that he will not bow to outside pressures and will do what's best for the club, hopefully that means he will stay, and that's where my money is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 34 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Last season he was. This year, we've squeezed half a dozen performances out of him. As for Joao and Matias...yes, potential. But, potential won't get us promoted. 18 months on, do they look like key components of a promotion-winning side? One needs to toughen up in every respect, the other is rarely fit enough to even take the field. Well maybe, but there's no sign of any of our recent additions doing that either. Even an out of sorts Forestieri is 10 times more effective than Reach. Even the perennially injured Matias has better Wednesday stats than our record buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Forestieri is a class above anything else in this division, Matias and Joao have potential to be very good players. Rhodes is a goalscorer, and a mid table championship player. We are slowly strangling the flair that made us so refreshing last season. Watched the extended highlights of the Brighton semi @ hillsborough last night... the difference to this seasons home performances is astounding. we now sit back,keep possession,very little urgency & hope to break the opposition down on the counter. Failing that HOOF! last year we were always on the front foot,constant pressing & played high up the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Even if FF hasn't hit the heights of last season, neither have Hooper, Wallace and Bannan. Do they all want out too? Even an off form FF has made us look more dangerous than in the games we have played without him. With the exception of Ipswich perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: Well maybe, but there's no sign of any of our recent additions doing that either. Even an out of sorts Forestieri is 10 times more effective than Reach. Even the perennially injured Matias has better Wednesday stats than our record buy We all know what Forestieri can do, and I want him to stay. I'm not disputing his value to the team or quality - but I don't feel the same about Joao and Matias anymore. Joao has had time and opportunity. He shows only glimpses. I rate Matias' talent, but he's rarely fit - which renders him pretty useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, richowl said: Watched the extended highlights of the Brighton semi @ hillsborough last night... the difference to this seasons home performances is astounding. we now sit back,keep possession,very little urgency & hope to break the opposition down on the counter. Failing that HOOF! last year we were always on the front foot,constant pressing & played high up the pitch. We were in that game. Many other home games were exactly like this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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