archieswfc Posted November 3, 2014 Author Share Posted November 3, 2014 you could well be right re yoevil vs tomorrow.. . but ill be very surprised (& gutted!) if the game on saturday vs toytown has a smaller gate than utds v the dingles. I'll be dissapointed but not surprised. There's always a reason not to go lately with Wednesday fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Just checked it out on their site. Bristol - 19,889 Crawley - 18,178 Rochdale - 19,122 Gillingham - 18,487 Orient - 19,179 Yeovil - 19,353 Barnsley - 24,495 In fairness I think SheffieldSteel has a reasonable point that our attendance is more about pricing than anything else. Considering the state of both teams (years of underachievement) they are both incredibly well supported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 It will be like a morgue there tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 It will be like a morgue there tonight. bang in a couple early on and the place will be rocking ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I'll be dissapointed but not surprised. There's always a reason not to go lately with Wednesday fans. Anyone who says they're not going because its cold are a big girls blouse. Nothing better than a cold crisp night, it kills all the bugs. UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Consistent poor performance at Hillsborough are costing us big time. I think Milan' s strategy of doing just enough to keep us in the division is starting to look extremely misguided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 Consistent poor performance at Hillsborough are costing us big time. I think Milan' s strategy of doing just enough to keep us in the division is starting to look extremely misguided. Or in the flip side we're half way up the league and rarely get beat, which is a big improvement in this time last year. If we were 6th we'd be getting similar crowds and we'd be moaning that if this or that happened we'd be top. A lot of people like to think they're brilliant fans but are staying away on principal, just to keep their own head happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Or in the flip side we're half way up the league and rarely get beat, which is a big improvement in this time last year. If we were 6th we'd be getting similar crowds and we'd be moaning that if this or that happened we'd be top. A lot of people like to think they're brilliant fans but are staying away on principal, just to keep their own head happy. You can't ignore it though, the gap between their support and ours, has rarely been closer, and they are in a division below. Of course there are economic factors why fans may now not be able go on a regular basis, but that would be the same for both sets of fans. In my opinion, the biggest single factor is the miserable fare we are served at Hillsborough. Most of my mates who aren't going, stay away because it's boring. Thankfully, at the moment, cost isn't an issue for me, but I often have second thoughts about making the trip to Hillsborough because, for the most part, it's incredibly dull. I don't feel that way about away matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Dec1966 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Whatever the reason and whatever the prices Uniteds crowds are brilliant, there's no denying it. It can't be denied that ours are disappointing so far this season either, don't know why. I applaud Uniteds low prices, football in general is too expensive. However a few points: 1. What really matters is INCOME. Over 60's pay £13 at the lane (my friend does anyway), about HALF what he'd pay at Wednesday as our concession is 65. Under 18's are very cheap too. If they have 10,000 season tickets and half the other 8 or 9,000 are concessions the actual income is low. 2. They are winning. Mostly 1-0 against Crawley and Rochdale but fans want a winning team. We have won once at home since about March! 3. Their decline has lasted 7 years, ours has lasted 15 years and it does wear you down. The last 10 years or so has seen them get to a couple of Fa Cup semi finals and play off finals. 4. We only have Rovrum as a so-called Derby (it's not really) 5. I predict that our crowds will be higher than theirs, on average, at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTO1867 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Same old debate but why have they only got around 4400 tickets when the West holds more that that Cos we need somewhere to put our Pukka Pie flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 You can't ignore it though, the gap between their support and ours, has rarely been closer, and they are in a division below. Of course there are economic factors why fans may now not be able go on a regular basis, but that would be the same for both sets of fans. In my opinion, the biggest single factor is the miserable fare we are served at Hillsborough. Most of my mates who aren't going, stay away because it's boring. Thankfully, at the moment, cost isn't an issue for me, but I often have second thoughts about making the trip to Hillsborough because, for the most part, it's incredibly dull. I don't feel that way about away matches. Possibly but we all know that league 1 is far more boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 come on shefsteel, tell me... are utd getting bigger gates? its a yes or no answer......... He seems to have disappeared without answering. Funny that, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffsteel Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) I don't visit this forum that often. Yeh Im certain Wednesday will just edge the average attendance but thats due to 2K plus average away fans. Where as at BL the average away fans is likely to be 500. Come let's face it both Sheffield clubs are well supported. SW away support has always been consistently excellent. The home support is struggling and the traffic around Leppings Lane is a real blockage problem now that Sainsburys is being built. SW have mid judged their pricing this season and have obviously hit the breaking point for some fans. It proves there is a demand for cheaper tickets when the £10 Reading deal sold so well. SWFC need to new pricing strategy for next season. When fans get out of the habit of attending it can prove difficult to get them back. Edited November 4, 2014 by sheffsteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 If the pigs get more fans than us. Then the world won't end will it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 Sheffsteel is getting a bit of hammer here but he's actually talking some sense. Trying to start an argument with him is daft really when he's not slating us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semedo's ferret Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Struggling to think of anyone that's brought more than 3000 to Hillsborough. Yet can recall many clubs with around 500. Be surprised if the average away support so far at Hillsborough is more than 1k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted November 4, 2014 Author Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Forest around 2500 Derby around 2000 Norwich around 2000 Rotherham will bring 4000 Watford 1000. All ish. Add to this leeds will sell whatever they're given. Probably a couple of thousand from huddersfield/Middlesborough/Birmingham maybe/wolves. Edited November 4, 2014 by archieswfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Yep, our favourite sleeper cell is talking sense. At the end of this season I expect united to have a very similar attendance record to ours. They are gonna be competing at the top end, we will be mid table if our performances improve, relegation candidates if not, that's not gonna bring the masses in. Fair play to em, and to us I'll add, it's not like either team is real Madrid is it? As we know though, it's all just frippery. All it means is another thing to brag about that has no bearing on the season. There are no points on offer, we've been told that repeatedly in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Yep, our favourite sleeper cell is talking sense. At the end of this season I expect united to have a very similar attendance record to ours. They are gonna be competing at the top end, we will be mid table if our performances improve, relegation candidates if not, that's not gonna bring the masses in. Fair play to em, and to us I'll add, it's not like either team is real Madrid is it? As we know though, it's all just frippery. All it means is another thing to brag about that has no bearing on the season. There are no points on offer, we've been told that repeatedly in the past. It's the lack of belief that things will change, treading water isn't a big seller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GY-owl.4 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 the Figures are Derby 4132 home fans 21054 total 25186 millwall 427 home 20209 20636 evening Forest 2617 home 18039 20656 live on tv Reading 856 home 28992 29848 Ipswich 622 home 17471 18093 evening Watford 1444 home 19465 20909 Norwich i wont know till i get tonights programme, but about 2k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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