Manor Owl Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I thought Semedo was immense and seeing off that bully Diouf was great to watch. Also I am sure that it gave confidence to Corry and Barkley that he would look after them. Corry seemed unsure at first but grew during the game. Agreed with COG in front and Llera behind most would feel safe. It is clearly more about confidence than skill. They have the skill just need to have the freedom to play. The back 4 will be right when Reda comes back. Antonio and Bothroyd looked good doing what they were supposed to but somewhere we have to find goals. In this setup COG can lead the line but not score enough goals. Madine may score more goals but is not a line leader. JJ seems out of it except as backup for Antonio and Bothroyd. Where that leaves Maguire Rodri Pecnic who knows. Mayor seems to be second backup behind JJ And of course Chris Lines cannot be too far away. After Blackburn it is Ipswich and Peterborough........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yes we have to get goals into the side and that means another foray into the transfer market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gaffer Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 My worry is we dont seem to be getting any ref decisions in our favour at all. Palace seemed to kick it off, with the penalty incident. Since weve had the Huddersfield match, Lleras header vs Hull, Antonio's penalty at Wolves, Becchio's superman impression. We could have had alot more points on the board if it had not been for inept refereeing. The games at Blackburn/Ipswich look tricky. The teams that are always struggling and cant buy a win, always seem to find that elusive one when Wednesday roll into town. We need to start pickin up points asap otherwise we will get cut adrift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danblakemore Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 We need a 1-0 scrappy win to start the ball rolling. A bit of luck and we will be off. I have a feeling one win will be followed by two three four etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
York_Owl Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Yes we have to get goals into the side and that means another foray into the transfer market If the goals aren't coming, rather than bring in another forward we could simply switch Bothroyd up front, Antonio to the right and bring in a left sided midfielder like Treacy. Having said that I think COG deserves a run in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 If I remember rightly didn't France win a world cup without a centre forward who could score goals. With Semedo, Corry and Barkley in midfield we actually completely bossed the centre of the park, which is something we couldn't even do last season. Keep the faith it'll all come good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manor Owl Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Just remind me how many different goalscorers did we have last season 23(?) If the defence & midfield hold up, the goals will come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Spreading the goals out is OK but lets not forget the standard of the opposition meant that players like Reda and Llera could virtually camp in our opponents half knowing, for the most part, teams couldn't exploit them being awol. Its different in this league, as we've already seen, teams will punish you if you stray too far from your defensive duties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikowl Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Sorry this is about football Was impressed by the whole team out there on Friday, in particular 2 players I think were unfairly dumped or dropped too quickly: Llera was immense, lucky to be on the pitch at the end tbf, but for me a captain's level performance he stood up and dished back in spades the aggression and in your face nastiness that surrounds Warnock's teams. For me that type of commitment lifts the crowd and the rest of the team. CoG I think we can all agree this lad lacks a bit of pace but imo His strength and commitment links up the team. The way he shrugged off the flying karate assault by brown was inspiring, many players would still be rolling around now after that but he stood up and watched whilst that snivelling rat rolled around trying to claim he'd been the one fouled, what a complete personification of the tw@ that was I'm glad DJ finally swallowed his pride and realised that Llera and CoG need to be in the team Chris O'Grady has played in 10 of our 11 league matches this season - started in 7 including the last four. In fact there are only two games this season, league and cup combined that he's played no part in! What a silly comment to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhollywood Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Chris O'Grady has played in 10 of our 11 league matches this season - started in 7 including the last four. In fact there are only two games this season, league and cup combined that he's played no part in! What a silly comment to make. He's also leading scorer isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tramowl Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 My worry is we dont seem to be getting any ref decisions in our favour at all. Palace seemed to kick it off, with the penalty incident. Since weve had the Huddersfield match, Lleras header vs Hull, Antonio's penalty at Wolves, Becchio's superman impression. We could have had alot more points on the board if it had not been for inept refereeing. The games at Blackburn/Ipswich look tricky. The teams that are always struggling and cant buy a win, always seem to find that elusive one when Wednesday roll into town. We need to start pickin up points asap otherwise we will get cut adrift. We dont seem to be having the rub of the green, I agree. Went to Forest v Cardiff game on saturday. Although supposidly top teams, both were poor and not a patch on Wednesday's performance the previous night. We are not that far from having a good team fit for the top eschelons of this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 We have to be careful this "revival" becomes real and is backed up by points on the board. The last two games have seen a slight improvement in our performance but have translated into wins. Whilst the new system has resulted in us looking more solid, and I'm fully behind the change, it also negates us as an attacking force. If we can cut the goals conceded to an average of one a game ( instead of three ) but are unable to score, the result will be the same, zero points. Blackburn will be a good test of whether the revival is genuine or not. They have plenty of scoring options all over the pitch and we will do well to keep them out. Having said that, I have a feeling we'll triumph 2-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gaffer Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Robinson Orr Dann Givet Olsson Formica Dunn Etuhu Pedersen Kazim-Richards Rhodes This is how my Blackburn supporting mate believes they will line up. If thats the case I reckon we will get zilch, then onto Ipswich who cant buy a win, but ill have a wager with anyone that they will get it against us. If we fail to get anything from the next 2 games then I fear for DJ and a relegation dogfight is a certainty. These games are crucial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mas Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 i think now the defence looks more solid we should move back to 4-4-2 and move bothroyd into a more advanced role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mas Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 no chance Bothroyd has looked different class playing further back when he was upfront in his first few games he was nowhere near his fitness levels at the moment though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I think DJ will get the next three games, anything less than 6 points wouldn't be a good return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everywhere & nowhere Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I think DJ will get the next three games, anything less than 6 points wouldn't be a good return Think it's better to drop the how many games left thing. Anyone watching on Friday can see how we are moving forward and it's bigger than a run of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Think it's better to drop the how many games left thing. Anyone watching on Friday can see how we are moving forward and it's bigger than a run of games. i'm not saying i want it to happen, just going our chairman's record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 i'm not saying i want it to happen, just going our chairman's record The chairman isn't stupid. He would only act if he had someone else lined up. Who is a better championship manager than Dave Jones and is available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Robinson Orr Dann Givet Olsson Formica Dunn Etuhu Pedersen Kazim-Richards Rhodes This is how my Blackburn supporting mate believes they will line up. If thats the case I reckon we will get zilch, then onto Ipswich who cant buy a win, but ill have a wager with anyone that they will get it against us. If we fail to get anything from the next 2 games then I fear for DJ and a relegation dogfight is a certainty. These games are crucial. Still time to have a good season - I'm not panicking,... yet, plenty of time just a couple of wins and things will look much better. I think we can get something from both games, we just need to keep plugging away and we'll get 'a decision' that will spark it off - that's the reason for the OP: is he getting that balance of old team spirit (Llera Semedo Cog) and new talent( Barkley Bothroyd Gardner) mixture right? - I've been a critic of bringing in and then always playing an unfit out of form Bothroyd into the side, now we've paid handsomely in lack lustre performances to get him fit, let's hope this form keeps up and we see the top class striker in him. I've also challenged the throwing in of a young kid into the deep end, didn't see anything to justify it early on but as he has started to learn a role and get familiar with what he is asked to do -signs are that if he is allowed to and wants to this could be exciting ( even that still not a fan of short term 'will he wont he' loans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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