Thank you all- the 1867 Group

[The1867Group]

We would like to start off by saying thank you, to our volunteers, who yet again gave up their time to distribute flyers, to fans who thanked us for our efforts. And to those who respectfully declined a flyer. 
 

Whilst we expected this protest wouldn’t be as successful as the one against Birmingham due to recent results, it was still pleasing to see so many in agreement, that change is very much needed.

Sadly, given our constant requests that debate remains civil and respectful, it’s a shame some fellow Wednesdayites couldn’t afford us that respect. 

 

We always knew we’d be open to criticism. It comes with being a protest group on such a divisive issue. People don’t want unrest at the club, neither do we. 

What we didn’t sign up to is threats of violence, being spat at, our support questioned, flyers knocked out of our distributors hands or the disgusting remarks based on our appearance. We didn’t expect this from fans of our own club. What happened to WAWAW?

 

Everything we’ve done and will continue to do is because we love Sheffield Wednesday. We believe in its untapped potential. Contrary to the belief of some we don’t hate Mr. Chansiri. We don’t want him to fail. But the past 9 years have proven that he either doesn’t have the resources to change - or he simply doesn’t want to. We don’t feel we can reason with the chairman.

 

Whilst Danny Röhl and his coaching staff are doing a fantastic job and results have picked up, the situation off the pitch is still very much unknown. Will the chairman adequately fund the club in the future? What is our financial situation? Are taxes and players going to be paid on time? Will the club adequately address supporters concerns regarding season ticket, match day and merchandise pricing? Will the club address the mysterious reasoning behind the lack of card payment option on season tickets? What was the reason for such short early bird season ticket periods? Are there cash flow issues? 

 

We aren’t a consortium. We aren’t trying to buy the club. We’re a group of fans from all different walks of life that are respectfully asking Mr. Chansiri to put the club up for sale. He has himself admitted that there has been interest in the past. 

 

This is why we won’t stop. We’ll keep protesting in a peaceful way. 

 

Dejphon Chansiri, enough is enough. 

Please put our club up for sale.

 

#swfc

[Inspector Lestrade]

Puts the club up for sale (we all cheer hurrah) no one buys the club, what then?  Do we carry on protesting?

[MallorcaOwl]

2 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

Puts the club up for sale (we all cheer hurrah) no one buys the club, what then?  Do we carry on protesting?

Yes

[HirstWhoScoredIt]

I’m sorry to hear about that.

 

I can totally understand that some of the fanbase don’t want to protest.

 

However, anybody that questions the right of others to protest is against free speech and that is a dangerous rabbit hole to go down - one which seems increasingly common over the last few years in this country.

 

It then gets supported by many if they don’t agree with the agenda of the people being shut down.

 

Free speech and freedom to Protest should always be supported even if you completely disagree with the protesters.

 

Millions of people have lost their lives so that we have that freedom.

 

All of society would do well to remember that.

 

“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”.

[31Dec1966]

Excellent opening post and thanks to the group for kick starting the protests.

 

How appalling that some people who  disagree reacted with abuse and threats, there is simply no need for it.  We should all be civil and respectful of other peoples views.

 

I cannot see how people can disagree with a peaceful protest by people who want a properly run club.  And no one can really believe that we have been properly run these last 9 years.  If you don't wish to join in ,  then don't, that's OK. Mr Chansiri must have had good intentions at the beginning, but we now need new owners to take us forward.

 

Danny, the coaching staff, and the team have forged a togetherness with the fans, imagine how much better this would become if we had competent owners who engaged with the fans and understood the club and what it means to generations of fans.

 

Well done to all.

 

Up the Owls

[matthefish2002]

I thought the protest went quite well.

Was never going to be as successful as the one v Birmingham.

Good results lately were bound to take the edge off.

But still gave an indication that Wednesday fans are generally disillusioned with Chansiri as Chairman/ owner.

 

I respect people who disagree with the protests but don't respect those that are rude and discourteous to the volunteers.

[Bazza]

50 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

I’m sorry to hear about that.

 

I can totally understand that some of the fanbase don’t want to protest.

 

However, anybody that questions the right of others to protest is against free speech and that is a dangerous rabbit hole to go down - one which seems increasingly common over the last few years in this country.

 

It then gets supported by many if they don’t agree with the agenda of the people being shut down.

 

Free speech and freedom to Protest should always be supported even if you completely disagree with the protesters.

 

Millions of people have lost their lives so that we have that freedom.

 

All of society would do well to remember that.

 

“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”.

Seems more than a bit hypocritical to say protesting against a protest isn't ok

 

And just for the record I am neither for protesting or against it. I just hate seeing this club rip itself apart. 

 

 

[SiJ]

Just now, Bazza said:

Seems more than a bit hypocritical to say protesting against a protest isn't ok

 

And just for the record I am neither for protesting or against it. I just hate seeing this club rip itself apart. 

 

 

Right, but you are fine for the chairman to rip it apart. 

[epton1867]

Keep up the good work , hopefully it leads to the sale of the club and a brighter future 

[The1867Group]

9 minutes ago, Bazza said:

Seems more than a bit hypocritical to say protesting against a protest isn't ok

 

And just for the record I am neither for protesting or against it. I just hate seeing this club rip itself apart. 

 

 

Oh you can protest against it but to spit in peoples faces and act violently is not ok. 

[Bazza]

1 minute ago, The1867Group said:

Oh you can protest against it but to spit in peoples faces and act violently is not ok. 

Couldn’t agree more.

[HarrowbyOwl]

11 minutes ago, Bazza said:

 

And just for the record I am neither for protesting or against it.

 

 

What are you for exactly - doing nothing as the club goes down the pan?

[owlinexile]

A lot of people just don't want to engage with reality, unfortunately.  They just want to go to a Wednesday match and be tribal with their mates without anything from the world of 'off the field' intruding, which is absolutely fine, most of the time. 

 

Sadly some of them are deeply, deeply stupid and are completely unable to differentiate between the club and the owner of the club.  Any criticism of Chansiri is an attack on 'the tribe' and they are going to react with predictable primate aggression.

 

At least it means that the message is out there and they can't ignore it.  Keep up the good work.

[ChapSmurf]

10 minutes ago, Bazza said:

Seems more than a bit hypocritical to say protesting against a protest isn't ok

 

And just for the record I am neither for protesting or against it. I just hate seeing this club rip itself apart. 

 

 

 

He's not saying that. He's quite clearly saying that free speech must be respected and tolerated, and that cuts both ways.

 

If certain fans don't agree with the protest, they are welcome to have their say I'm sure, in a none violent, none abusive and none confrontational way - the same way that, it seems, the 1867 Group and their volunteers are acting.

 

Spitting at, knocking flyers from and making remarks about the clothing of, the volunteers and members of the 1867 Group, crosses a boundary, whether or not you agree or disagree with the 1867 Group protest.

[Bazza]

10 minutes ago, SiJ said:

Right, but you are fine for the chairman to rip it apart. 

Not at all. But responses like yours are half the problem. I have clearly said I am neither for or against protesting and you have jumped straight to that! 
 

personally I would love to see the club sold to the right party but I am worried about what happens if that doesn’t happen. And I really don’t know if protesting is a good thing or not. So right now I am on the fence as to the best way forward. 
 

that doesn’t make me pro chansiri or anti protesting it just make me a scared Wednesday fan 

 

[SiJ]

Who in the actual f spits in the face of someone? 

 

Unbelievable. 

[SiJ]

Just now, Bazza said:

Not at all. But responses like yours are half the problem. I have clearly said I am neither for or against protesting and you have jumped straight to that! 
 

personally I would love to see the club sold to the right party but I am worried about what happens if that doesn’t happen. And I really don’t know if protesting is a good thing or not. So right now I am on the fence as to the best way forward. 
 

that doesn’t make me pro chansiri or anti protesting it just make me a scared Wednesday fan 

 

We are way past the "be careful what you wish for" stage. 

 

At the end of the day, if Chansiri was doing his job properly, then there would be no need to protest. 

 

[Bazza]

7 minutes ago, HarrowbyOwl said:

What are you for exactly - doing nothing as the club goes down the pan?

Nope! Like a lot of fans I want to see change but I worry deeply about the possible consequences of trying to force it. 

[Miffed]

Thanks for all your efforts so far. I thanked the guys handing out the leaflets and offered some help handing out some leaflets inside the stadium, which were all gladly accepted.

 

You guys have done more for this club in such as short space of time, drawing local and national attention to the issues at the club, than any other statement or strongly worded letter has done from others in the past.

 

Please don’t let a few nobbers put you off the cause and keep up the good work. 

[ohgoditsjames]

Well done to all involved! 

 

Where were the volunteers located? I was parked near the Dog track and didn't see anyone handing out flyers on my walk to the Kop so unfortunately I didn't manage to get one, I would love to have gotten one, hopefully next time!

Edited March 10 by ohgoditsjames