Popular Post CourteenerOwl Posted January 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2022 Does this way of thinking irritate anyone else? It is all I am seeing, mainly on Twitter but have seen it mentioned on most portals in discussion of Darren Moore. It is such a flawed way of thinking, to leave a manger in control of a business because you cannot be bothered to recruit better. Surely this just creates a really apathetic culture around the club, which is how it feels right now. No other business would ever leave a manager in charge because the replacement is not clear, and continue to mis perform. There are so many examples out there for people to look at when it comes to clubs changing managers. I bet none of the Sheff U fans were ecstatic when Heckingbttom replaced Jokanovic, but he has had an impact. Even if you look closer to home, not many of us would have been asking for Megson to be replaced by Jones, look what happened there. You could go on and on, of manager who were surprise appointments at various clubs and went on to have an immediate impact. Not many Forest fans were that chuffed that Cooper was the man to replace Hughton, again he has had a great impact. I referenced Mark Robins yesterday, that situation proabbly the closest to our own. You could argue SISU and the Cov situation is far worse and Robins won two promotions with all that going on - did the Cov fans want to stick with Russell Slade? No, they were on his back. Do you really think the players in the changing room, don't hear the same unmotivating, delusional, cliched drivel that we do? There is no way Moore is any different in that changing room imo and the performances suggest the same. I understand the thought of can the chairman actually appoint a good manager. However, all of his manager appointments have on paper had a chance and not been that bad. Other than Jos, all of the others had some sort of track record or you could see why he went that way. Surely it is better that he acts now to try and save the season, whilst we are 5 points off 6th and at the start of the transfer window and two weeks before the next game? It's almost the perfect time for a change. We made the change in far less troubling times with Megson and Manderic had a reputation at getting appointments wrong, it can sometimes work. Where is the risk? It cannot get any worse on the field. Most of the squad is loans and frees and short term deals. It's not like any new manager will be lumbered with 10-15 players he cannot get rid of in the summer. If there ever was a time to actually change our manager it is today. The chairman gives these managers far too much time to try and turn things around. We are not in the Sir Alex era anymore. If it's not working it's not working. You could see with Moore even in the Championship, he was making odd choices. I would actually say from the list of comedic managers we have had recently - Moore now topples Jos as the worst. Hopefully we will hear something today. 20 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RighthOwlon Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 But who is out there to replace him? 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jangoSWFC Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I think we should do what man united have done. Give it to Thompson/bullen to the end of the season while searching for the perfect appointment. If 6 months of searching for a manager doesn’t provide a good candidate then I don’t know what will. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I read these comments more as an indictment on DC than anything else. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sethman75 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Look literally anybody is better than Moore at this stage 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 I actually think there are people already at the club who could do a better job than Moore. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Django Posted January 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2022 A better way of looking at it is could anyone do any worse? 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, jangoSWFC said: I think we should do what man united have done. Give it to Thompson/bullen to the end of the season while searching for the perfect appointment. If 6 months of searching for a manager doesn’t provide a good candidate then I don’t know what will. I’d take that Probably lean more to Bullen than Thompson though. The latter made some strange selections at times last year. At least Bullen puts round pegs in round holes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 43 minutes ago, jangoSWFC said: I think we should do what man united have done. Give it to Thompson/bullen to the end of the season while searching for the perfect appointment. If 6 months of searching for a manager doesn’t provide a good candidate then I don’t know what will. That would at least give us a shout,under Darren sadly we will just see more poor performances,and us slipping further away from any chance of promotion... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 If I was the chairman of a football club, I'd make it my business to get to know as many people as possible in the game - players, ex players, coaches, managers, agents. I'd build relationships and know as much as possible about anyone who was a potential future manager and always have someone lined up, preferably someone who isn't on the merry go round of failed managers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourteenerOwl Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 Do you ever think the main reason these managers like Monk, Jos and Moore get so long in the job, past the point they should have gone, is how nice we are as fans? Monk - Should have gone at Brentford away. Got ages after. Moore - Should have gone after Sunderland 5-0. Should defo go after yesterday. He will get majority of the season. Jos - Should have about 6 months before he did, Millwall away springs to mind. When was the last time you ever heard our fans get toxic at a game and chant for a manger out?? Why are we so tame, other clubs do it all the time. The only time our crowd turned toxic was at Jos at Hillsboorugh when they started chanting for Westwood and Hutchinson - even then why not just chant we want Jos out. Makes you wonder how much a demographic of opinion twitter and OT is compared to the matchday crowd. The opinion on here and twitter is all pretty much we want Moore out, other than a few nutters who want us in League 2 because they can't think of a replacement 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 at well run clubs not only is a manager sacked there replacement is lined up straight away. chansiri will do the usual thompson/bullen for a month to 6 weeks then someone comes in . alex neil is a stand out name im sure a challenge of turning a great club like ours around would appeal . there is still a very small chance of promotion if most of the loans can go back and get in others . without that 11th or 12th will be the finish at the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SallyCinnamon Posted January 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2022 The next manager will be just as poor. That’s why I’d stick with Moore. I’d give him the season at least and take a view from there. 4 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganowl Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, CourteenerOwl said: Do you ever think the main reason these managers like Monk, Jos and Moore get so long in the job, past the point they should have gone, is how nice we are as fans? Monk - Should have gone at Brentford away. Got ages after. Moore - Should have gone after Sunderland 5-0. Should defo go after yesterday. He will get majority of the season. Jos - Should have about 6 months before he did, Millwall away springs to mind. When was the last time you ever heard our fans get toxic at a game and chant for a manger out?? Why are we so tame, other clubs do it all the time. The only time our crowd turned toxic was at Jos at Hillsboorugh when they started chanting for Westwood and Hutchinson - even then why not just chant we want Jos out. Makes you wonder how much a demographic of opinion twitter and OT is compared to the matchday crowd. The opinion on here and twitter is all pretty much we want Moore out, other than a few nutters who want us in League 2 because they can't think of a replacement a lot of us wanted moore gone at cheltenham it was building up before then . we want darren moore was loud and clear since then ive just heard a 1 man band saying it . other clubs supporters would have gone balmy by now , i just think we are so used to failure that total apathy has set in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourteenerOwl Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, morganowl said: at well run clubs not only is a manager sacked there replacement is lined up straight away. chansiri will do the usual thompson/bullen for a month to 6 weeks then someone comes in . alex neil is a stand out name im sure a challenge of turning a great club like ours around would appeal . there is still a very small chance of promotion if most of the loans can go back and get in others . without that 11th or 12th will be the finish at the end of the season Alex Neil would be a good appointment. The type of manager most of our fans would sneer at because he is not a sexy appointment. He has won promotion a few times in his career. When he took the Norwich job they were really struggling. He took over from Neil Adams and instantly had them on an upward curve. He always did well at Preston and had them competing with no budget, better than any of our managers in the same period. He is a far better manager than Darren Moore. So I wonder why he is sneered at. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourteenerOwl Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, morganowl said: a lot of us wanted moore gone at cheltenham it was building up before then . we want darren moore was loud and clear since then ive just heard a 1 man band saying it . other clubs supporters would have gone balmy by now , i just think we are so used to failure that total apathy has set in . Was at Cheltenham and I have to admit I did not hear anything. Someone asked on here the other day why none of our managers ever resign. Terry Yorath was the last one - I remember the Yorath out chants out. We are far too polite as fans and that is why the managers never go when they should and the chairman does what he wants imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 56 minutes ago, sethman75 said: Look literally anybody is better than Moore at this stage That's what people said about Monk, Lukhay and Pulis. Replacing one poor manager for another achieves nothing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 54 minutes ago, Django said: I’d take that Probably lean more to Bullen than Thompson though. The latter made some strange selections at times last year. At least Bullen puts round pegs in round holes It would take about 3 or 4 games for people to turn on Bullen. We know this from experience. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourteenerOwl Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, NorthernOwl said: That's what people said about Monk, Lukhay and Pulis. Replacing one poor manager for another achieves nothing. Its flawed logic though. Man Utd had a run of managers that didn't do much before they got to Sir Alex. Can say the same about almost any club. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, CourteenerOwl said: Its flawed logic though. Man Utd had a run of managers that didn't do much before they got to Sir Alex. Can say the same about almost any club. It's not flawed logic. If we sack him and appoint someone with a proven record of success then fine. It's the anyone will be better than Moore argument I don't agree with. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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