SallyCinnamon Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, 0742 said: "money it generates" Yeah, that's not how business and debt work and man utd are currently £450m+ in debt and the issue is, that the club is accruing more debt, whilst the glazer family keeps taking dividends out. if you don't understand why that is a bad thing, you probably need to brush up on your business knowledge a little. The fans don’t own the club. Sorry. Can’t have it both ways. Can’t jump for joy at spending millions and millions on world class players and moan about owners, who make that possible, taking money out of the club. Edited August 28, 2021 by SallyCinnamon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: agreed- never quite got it it's the best thing since sliced bread when they run their clubs economically well in Germany. It’s common knowledge that to be a good owner then you must a. Put in vast amounts of your person wealth b. Never expect to receive a penny from the club in profit c. Win trophies every single season d. Kiss the fans arse at every given opportunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: The fans don’t own the club. Sorry. Can’t have it both ways. Can’t jump for joy at spending millions and millions on world class players and moan about owners, who make that possible, taking money out of the club. Tell you what. Chansiri can take whatever he wants out of Wednesday if we’re in the top 6 of the PL each season 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, Django said: It’s common knowledge that to be a good owner then you must a. Put in vast amounts of your person wealth b. Never expect to receive a penny from the club in profit c. Win trophies every single season d. Kiss the fans arse at every given opportunity e. But own a club that would make loads of money anyway without you as then you're simply 'buying the league' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Django said: Tell you what. Chansiri can take whatever he wants out of Wednesday if we’re in the top 6 of the PL each season Absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) The Glazers don't put their own money in; they make some of the vast sums made by that club available for transfers. They've take billions out and saddled the club with a huge amount of debt when they purchased it many moons ago. The ground has not had much investment, along with the training ground. So no, they are not particularly good owners but they happen to be in charge of a club where it would be pretty difficult to get it so wrong that they don't finish in the top 6. But yes, many Man U fans have more faces than a town clock when it comes to them. Theyll kick off for a bit and then be placated with a big signing. Same goes for most supporters. Edited August 28, 2021 by SiJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, SiJ said: You're an idiot though so. Not quite sure why it needs to get personal. You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with commenting on my posts. Bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Orlando_Trustful said: Not quite sure why it needs to get personal. You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with commenting on my posts. Bizarre. I think my previous post gives an insight into why. Now why don't you run along and go and make some homophobic joke in the matchday section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, SiJ said: I think my previous post gives an insight into why. Now why don't you run along and go and make some homophobic joke in the matchday section. You certainly are an odd character. You’ve either got an extremely high opinion of yourself or a real fragile ego. I’ve noticed you seem to frequently discuss ‘the poster’ and not ‘the post’ on here in recent years. Perhaps life isn’t treating you too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Orlando_Trustful said: You certainly are an odd character. You’ve either got an extremely high opinion of yourself or a real fragile ego. I’ve noticed you seem to frequently discuss ‘the poster’ and not ‘the post’ on here in recent years. Perhaps life isn’t treating you too well. I'm fine thank you. Life is perfectly reasonable, but please feel free to speculate if it makes you feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 5 hours ago, Django said: How am I suppost to know I'm curious because you seem keen to criticise Messi for taking the easy option - so i'm wondering what other options were available to him that he ignored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, scram said: I'm curious because you seem keen to criticise Messi for taking the easy option - so i'm wondering what other options were available to him that he ignored? He could have gone anywhere- he's Messi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0742 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, SallyCinnamon said: The fans don’t own the club. Sorry. Can’t have it both ways. Can’t jump for joy at spending millions and millions on world class players and moan about owners, who make that possible, taking money out of the club. You really don't get it do you! Complete side step of the issue around the debt of the business, which is man utd football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0742 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 39 minutes ago, SiJ said: The Glazers don't put their own money in; they make some of the vast sums made by that club available for transfers. They've take billions out and saddled the club with a huge amount of debt when they purchased it many moons ago. The ground has not had much investment, along with the training ground. So no, they are not particularly good owners but they happen to be in charge of a club where it would be pretty difficult to get it so wrong that they don't finish in the top 6. But yes, many Man U fans have more faces than a town clock when it comes to them. Theyll kick off for a bit and then be placated with a big signing. Same goes for most supporters. This is a great post 44 minutes ago, SiJ said: You're an idiot though so. But this is terrible, come on, even though i only know you as a poster on here, you're better than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, Ellis Rimmer said: He could have gone anywhere- he's Messi That doesn't answer the question But you know that Which clubs did he turn down in order to go with the "easy option" names of clubs please - not a load of waffle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Ellis Rimmer said: He could have gone anywhere- he's Messi He can't go somewhere if they didn't bid for him. Ronaldo would have quite happily gone to PSG if that was an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, 0742 said: But this is terrible, come on, even though i only know you as a poster on here, you're better than that! Fair enough. I apologise to Orlando for getting personal. Should have countered his points rather than take a cheap shot. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, scram said: That doesn't answer the question But you know that Which clubs did he turn down in order to go with the "easy option" names of clubs please - not a load of waffle 1 minute ago, SiJ said: He can't go somewhere if they didn't bid for him. Ronaldo would have quite happily gone to PSG if that was an option. I can't say specifics but whatever United for example would have paid whatever they're paying to Messi. Messi just went to the place that could offer the most money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 I just think using the fact that Ronaldo ended up at United and Messi ended up at PSG as an argument in the GOAT debate to be very odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, Ellis Rimmer said: I can't say specifics but whatever United for example would have paid whatever they're paying to Messi. Messi just went to the place that could offer the most money. Yes, but Ronaldo isn't going to Man U for peanuts. Worth remembering that Messi agreed to half his salary before Barca pulled the plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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