WUGGAMONKEY1 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 What do people think, on reflection, of lasts seasons permanent contract dealings? I think Paterson & Windass were decent enough signings. I think the club have (seemingly) done well to sign them without having to agree to a low release clause in the event of relegation. Being able hold out for decent money for Windass, for example, has given us a strong bargaining position now wages have been paid. Same to a lesser degree in extending Bannan’s contract although, if reports of a £20k a week contract are true, it’s an excessive amount for a League One player. I was a bit disappointed with Dele-Bashiru’s impact as I thought he looked decent in the early cup matches. He’s clearly got some talent (IMO) so hopefully he will press on this year. I think we signed him on a 3.5 year contract so a good season next year may see him become a high value asset. The only other perm signing (I think) was Andre Green. He’s probably a bit similar to FDB and has plenty still to prove. I think it was our loan signings that really let us down last season. We ‘swapped’ the creativity and goals of Josh Murphy for pretty much the opposite in Marriott and Brown. It could have been a different season altogether if just one of our loan players had come off in the way that Murphy & Hector did in previous seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WUGGAMONKEY1 Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, WUGGAMONKEY1 said: What do people think, on reflection, of lasts seasons permanent contract dealings? I think Paterson & Windass were decent enough signings. I think the club have (seemingly) done well to sign them without having to agree to a low release clause in the event of relegation. Being able hold out for decent money for Windass, for example, has given us a strong bargaining position now wages have been paid. Same to a lesser degree in extending Bannan’s contract although, if reports of a £20k a week contract are true, it’s an excessive amount for a League One player. I was a bit disappointed with Dele-Bashiru’s impact as I thought he looked decent in the early cup matches. He’s clearly got some talent (IMO) so hopefully he will press on this year. I think we signed him on a 3.5 year contract so a good season next year may see him become a high value asset. The only other perm signing (I think) was Andre Green. He’s probably a bit similar to FDB and has plenty still to prove. I think it was our loan signings that really let us down last season. We ‘swapped’ the creativity and goals of Josh Murphy for pretty much the opposite in Marriott and Brown. It could have been a different season altogether if just one of our loan players had come off in the way that Murphy & Hector did in previous seasons. For clarity, I mean the contract we were able to agree. Not the ones the couldn’t! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeadonowl Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 minute ago, WUGGAMONKEY1 said: What do people think, on reflection, of lasts seasons permanent contract dealings? I think Paterson & Windass were decent enough signings. I think the club have (seemingly) done well to sign them without having to agree to a low release clause in the event of relegation. Being able hold out for decent money for Windass, for example, has given us a strong bargaining position now wages have been paid. Same to a lesser degree in extending Bannan’s contract although, if reports of a £20k a week contract are true, it’s an excessive amount for a League One player. I was a bit disappointed with Dele-Bashiru’s impact as I thought he looked decent in the early cup matches. He’s clearly got some talent (IMO) so hopefully he will press on this year. I think we signed him on a 3.5 year contract so a good season next year may see him become a high value asset. The only other perm signing (I think) was Andre Green. He’s probably a bit similar to FDB and has plenty still to prove. I think it was our loan signings that really let us down last season. We ‘swapped’ the creativity and goals of Josh Murphy for pretty much the opposite in Marriott and Brown. It could have been a different season altogether if just one of our loan players had come off in the way that Murphy & Hector did in previous seasons. It was awful and along with the points deduction contributed massively to our relegation The likes of Kachunga, Brown, Dunkley, Marriott, Flint, Dele-Bashiru offered virtually nothing to the season We never addressed the issue of not having a proper strike force. This was crystal clear in the summer and became more evident in January. The issues are still the same this window. We need a proper strike force and we need a left back 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 You think they were decent signings despite us having playoff campaigns and then getting relegated? easily pleased some 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beighton Owl 87 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Dele Bashiru - Unsure Dunkley - Unsure Brown - poo Windass - Good Paterson - Good Adedoyin - Unsure Marriott - poo Kachunga - poo Green - Unsure Hutchinson - Good Flint - OK before injury 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 We could have had the best ever transfer window ever last season and it wouldn't have mattered one bit with DC ******** around with the background stuff. Same goes for this season really, if DC undermines everything then it doesn't matter who we bring in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, WUGGAMONKEY1 said: What do people think, on reflection, of lasts seasons permanent contract dealings? I think Paterson & Windass were decent enough signings. I think the club have (seemingly) done well to sign them without having to agree to a low release clause in the event of relegation. Being able hold out for decent money for Windass, for example, has given us a strong bargaining position now wages have been paid. Same to a lesser degree in extending Bannan’s contract although, if reports of a £20k a week contract are true, it’s an excessive amount for a League One player. I was a bit disappointed with Dele-Bashiru’s impact as I thought he looked decent in the early cup matches. He’s clearly got some talent (IMO) so hopefully he will press on this year. I think we signed him on a 3.5 year contract so a good season next year may see him become a high value asset. The only other perm signing (I think) was Andre Green. He’s probably a bit similar to FDB and has plenty still to prove. I think it was our loan signings that really let us down last season. We ‘swapped’ the creativity and goals of Josh Murphy for pretty much the opposite in Marriott and Brown. It could have been a different season altogether if just one of our loan players had come off in the way that Murphy & Hector did in previous seasons. I like Paterson a LOT Windass - he's ok but what IS his position? Dele Bashiru - need to see more of him Green - need to see more Be interesting to see how they do now they've been paid IF they're paid properly and supported this season by the club properly Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Kachunga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, BIG D said: Kachunga Thing is though we mock and laugh at how had some of the signings have been but we've dropped a league since then so this season's could be way way way WAY worse We just need to pray for some upcoming bright diamonds to come and play for us - ideally young, rapid, exciting Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneManBand Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, BIG D said: Kachunga Bless you 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew1974 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Of all of them, I never understood why we signed Kachunga. Must have given the opposition such a boost when they saw him coming on.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, WUGGAMONKEY1 said: What do people think, on reflection, of lasts seasons permanent contract dealings? I think Paterson & Windass were decent enough signings. I think the club have (seemingly) done well to sign them without having to agree to a low release clause in the event of relegation. Being able hold out for decent money for Windass, for example, has given us a strong bargaining position now wages have been paid. Same to a lesser degree in extending Bannan’s contract although, if reports of a £20k a week contract are true, it’s an excessive amount for a League One player. I was a bit disappointed with Dele-Bashiru’s impact as I thought he looked decent in the early cup matches. He’s clearly got some talent (IMO) so hopefully he will press on this year. I think we signed him on a 3.5 year contract so a good season next year may see him become a high value asset. The only other perm signing (I think) was Andre Green. He’s probably a bit similar to FDB and has plenty still to prove. I think it was our loan signings that really let us down last season. We ‘swapped’ the creativity and goals of Josh Murphy for pretty much the opposite in Marriott and Brown. It could have been a different season altogether if just one of our loan players had come off in the way that Murphy & Hector did in previous seasons. Very poor loan signings cost us big time last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Thing is though we mock and laugh at how had some of the signings have been but we've dropped a league since then so this season's could be way way way WAY worse We just need to pray for some upcoming bright diamonds to come and play for us - ideally young, rapid, exciting If you build a side around players who struggled to get into a relegation-bound side then I am sure we are all in agreement we are in a race to the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Really poor. Failed to address two key areas - a proper left back and a centre forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WUGGAMONKEY1 Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, fpowl said: You think they were decent signings despite us having playoff campaigns and then getting relegated? easily pleased some I didn’t really state whether I thought they were decent signings, or that I was pleased. I actually think Paterson and Windass weren’t bad signings at all. In the context of a 12 point deduction I think we’d have struggled to do much better. Also, we have two player contracted to us that are arguably worth more than what we paid for them. From that perspective I don’t think that’s OK business. I also think they performed as well as anybody last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WUGGAMONKEY1 Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, yeadonowl said: It was awful and along with the points deduction contributed massively to our relegation The likes of Kachunga, Brown, Dunkley, Marriott, Flint, Dele-Bashiru offered virtually nothing to the season We never addressed the issue of not having a proper strike force. This was crystal clear in the summer and became more evident in January. The issues are still the same this window. We need a proper strike force and we need a left back If forgotten about Dunkley & Kachunga! I think we need a proper strike force. We never replaced Fletcher with someone of a similar style - someone that could hold the ball up and play with their back to goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 minute ago, WUGGAMONKEY1 said: If forgotten about Dunkley & Kachunga! I think we need a proper strike force. We never replaced Fletcher with someone of a similar style - someone that could hold the ball up and play with their back to goal. This. We got rid of Fletcher and Nuhiu and failed to replace them. We lacked someone who could hold the ball up and link play. Paterson is ok but we didn’t have a clue where his best position was. Same for Windass who only really kicked on under Moore. And then Kachunga. Christ. We signed three strikers but none are what we needed. Awful recruitment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WUGGAMONKEY1 Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: I like Paterson a LOT Windass - he's ok but what IS his position? Dele Bashiru - need to see more of him Green - need to see more Be interesting to see how they do now they've been paid IF they're paid properly and supported this season by the club properly Hopefully with a settled manager, no worries about late wages and a bit of confidence we will see a better side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WUGGAMONKEY1 Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: I like Paterson a LOT Windass - he's ok but what IS his position? Dele Bashiru - need to see more of him Green - need to see more Be interesting to see how they do now they've been paid IF they're paid properly and supported this season by the club properly I like Paterson, but more as an attacking midfield. Windass is either a wide player in a 3 or maybe a CF if he has target man next to him IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 yes agree on the loan players, Brown and Marriott contributed nothing and costed plenty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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