DIPPS_S.W.F.C Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I think Dunk,Hutch,Green and Bashiru are going to be worth it,the rest if em loans included I just didnt get very poor. Dunk was a massive gamble tho. Monk ripped us a gud un,some terrible signings to what we had.. UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 We lost Forestieri, Fletcher, Nuihu, Hutchinson (initially), Fox, Lee. We let 4 strikers leave and signed none, we didnt replace the goals of Murphy and ended up with the 7th worse attack in the football league but for the cardiff game, we would have had the worst attack out of 72 teams. The recruitment was extremely poor, we sign players available instead of players we needed, Kachunga, Brown, Marriott, Flint a waste of money as was Green he barely played for 6 months. Dunkley spent most of the season unavailable another poor signing. FDB was clearly not ready for the championship and should have gone on loan, but we never do that and the best Keeper at the club was not allowed to play because Monk was a complete fool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 The recruitment was terrible Not player who came in was better than anyone they replaced The 'managers' we got was 10 times worse from Monk to Moore Last season probley worst season we've had in decades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdial Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 This is why we won’t go up on the current state of the squad. not enough goals in the team. We need a 20 goal a season man, Maclean and madine did this when we went up last time. None of the squad is capable, unless we find a gem in the young lads coming through, not sure one is out there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 5 hours ago, @owlstalk said: I like Paterson a LOT Windass - he's ok but what IS his position? Dele Bashiru - need to see more of him Green - need to see more Be interesting to see how they do now they've been paid IF they're paid properly and supported this season by the club properly I see your still wheelin out the pay chestnut..if yer crap yer crap wether you’ve been paid or not..kachunga is rubbish..dele looks rubbish..Andre green cudnt get a club till we stepped in...nowt to do wi wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Therealrealist Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 And marriot was a shocking waste of everybody’s time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 That transfer business and the retention of Monk sent us down. Chansiri is to blame for our mess but Monk and his business and management sent us to league one. I know we had the points deduction etc but it was still awful.... the best signing we made last season was Sam Hutchinson, who we made stay away from the first team and released in the summer. Dele Bashiru - Bad Signing, has potential but never looked first team ready. Dunkley - Awful Signing. never been fit and when he played looked awful. Brown - Awful Signing, need I say more. Windass - Decent Signing, compared to what we lost not in the same class but got better as time went on. Paterson - Bad Signing, effort is there which we lacked but terrible footballer. Adedoyin - Under 23 signing but injured. Marriott - Awful Signing, again injured before coming never got fit or wanted too. Kachunga - Awful Signing, just terrible at football Green - Weird Signing, why didnt we sign him in the summer and give him a pre season ? Hardly played when we did. Hutchinson - Good Signing, should never have been let go. Flint - Good Signing, just got injured and went back. Had pedigree before coming and after leaving played well for Cardiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Dutch McLovin said: That transfer business and the retention of Monk sent us down. Monk and his business and management sent us to league one. Holy mother of god You don't actually believe this right? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 36 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Holy mother of god You don't actually believe this right? Yes I do. As i put in the part of the post you haven't copied above, Chansiri is ultimately at fault for the massive mess the club is in. But if as he should have been Monk was dismissed at the end of the season prior and a new coaching team coming in, we would have stood a much better chance of staying up and attracting better players than the ones we got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said: But if as he should have been Monk was dismissed at the end of the season prior and a new coaching team coming in, we would have stood a much better chance of staying up and attracting better players than the ones we got. Monk was hitting enough points for safety Sacking him we achieved less points than when he was in position We got relegated Players weren't getting paid We were under a 12/6 point deduction So in a nutshell you're plain wrong on this one Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Kachunga is in the top 3 worst players I’ve ever seen in a Wednesday shirt, and there’s some serious contenders for that accolade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Monk was hitting enough points for safety Sacking him we achieved less points than when he was in position We got relegated Players weren't getting paid We were under a 12/6 point deduction So in a nutshell you're plain wrong on this one IMO we would have got relegated a lot sooner than the last game under Garry Monk. Its about Opinions, if we had got rid of him the season before as we should have you never know what would have happened. We were shot under Monk IMO. We then went for Pulis which totally put us up against it then appointed Moore too late to have an impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said: IMO we would have got relegated a lot sooner than the last game under Garry Monk. Its about Opinions We were picking up enough points for safety under Monk despite everything that was going on - that's an incredible achievement We sacked him We got relegated Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Think overall last summers recruitment was poor. Patterson is average player and Windass seems ok but the rest made minimal impact. But with the circumstances at the time it is hardly surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Joao's Tooth Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 I'm not buying into some of this stuff it's all in hindsight. Dele Bashiru - People were happy with this, sensing a new direction for the club. Dunkley - No matter of his ability as a player we signed someone who was recovering from a broken leg? Brown - People were buzzing with this signing and it turned out to a awful one Windass - Decent player - what is his best position though? Paterson - Decent - nothing special, brought in to replace Nuhiu? Adedoyin - Young Marriott - Again same as Izzy Brown people were happy with this signing and it didn't work out for whatever reason Kachunga - It's clear and obvious why he was brought in, it showed how much we were struggling to recruit, he was brought in as a extra body and that's it. Green - Honestly think he could be a big player for us in League 1, will be interesting to see if he kicks on, it's a small gamble on wages with a potential higher reward if he does kick on Flint - Again same as Marriott and Brown, people were happy with his signing, myself included. What we were missing some aerial presence and a leader, it's not his fault he got injured. It's easy to now sit here and say the recruitment was poor, which again in hindsight it got us relegated amongst many other reasons but this isn't down to the recruitment team or Monk. We clearly struggled to recruit, Dunkley and Kachunga are prime examples of that plus Patterson and Windass who are versatile players with no stand out position. While i think Monk was a poor manager i don't blame him for the recruitment. This season is more than likely going to be just as bad so strap in for the bumpy ride, everyone is shopping in the same market as we are now for obvious reasons worldwide plus the poison around the club with unpaid wages, how are we going to be a bigger pull to a player over however many other teams? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Joao's Tooth Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Lucas Joao's Tooth said: While i think Monk was a poor manager i don't blame him for the recruitment. i do however blame him for lying about Kieran Lee and Nuhiu and letting those two go and not replacing them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakewell Owl Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 19 hours ago, @owlstalk said: I like Paterson a LOT Windass - he's ok but what IS his position? Dele Bashiru - need to see more of him Green - need to see more Be interesting to see how they do now they've been paid IF they're paid properly and supported this season by the club properly Villa mate of mine, raves about Green, hopefully he does the stuff this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Dutch McLovin said: IMO we would have got relegated a lot sooner than the last game under Garry Monk. Its about Opinions, if we had got rid of him the season before as we should have you never know what would have happened. We were shot under Monk IMO. We then went for Pulis which totally put us up against it then appointed Moore too late to have an impact. Considering we picked up more points per game with him in charge than we did after he left I fail to see how we would have got relegated a lot sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 16 hours ago, DIPPS_S.W.F.C said: I think Dunk,Hutch,Green and Bashiru are going to be worth it,the rest if em loans included I just didnt get very poor. Dunk was a massive gamble tho. Monk ripped us a gud un,some terrible signings to what we had.. UTO We should have signed that Toney fella, he played quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 8 hours ago, 83owl said: Considering we picked up more points per game with him in charge than we did after he left I fail to see how we would have got relegated a lot sooner. Because before he was sacked we had gone to a low point, remember the week of doom with Luton Wycombe and Rotherham when we got no points ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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