0wl18 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, mattitheowl said: Yeah and you're taught to land a corner on the penalty spot but how many times do corner takers manage that? It's easy to say what he should have done, I'm sure Dawson didn't WANT to just drop it on a plate for Toney, but you can't always control where it goes. Christ if no keeper ever couldn't control every shot there would be no goals ever! The ball was struck from 25 yards out. It should have been a routine save. There’s no justification for what happened other than it was a goalkeeping error. I’m sure Dawson didn’t want to make the mistake, your right but, it’s not his first is it? The lad isn’t up to Championship standard. Not his fault and, it’s not through a lack of effort. He clearly cares. The fact opposition teams are targeting him from distance says it all. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor Sam Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Just seen the goal, oh dear. Schoolboy error. 1 Russian Warship.... Go fxxk yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, mattitheowl said: Yeah and you're taught to land a corner on the penalty spot but how many times do corner takers manage that? It's easy to say what he should have done, I'm sure Dawson didn't WANT to just drop it on a plate for Toney, but you can't always control where it goes. Christ if no keeper ever couldn't control every shot there would be no goals ever! Bit of a silly argument. Is there a new rule where every time you fail to hit the penalty spot from a corner, the opposition are awarded a goal? If you’d have said, strikers are paid to score goals how many have ours scored, you’d have a fair argument. We didn’t score enough goals last year so we’ve brought new players to the club. Why haven’t we replaced our poor goalkeepers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 When someone (can’t remember who) took on a really early shot from a stupid angle towards the near post it was VERY clear it was a deliberate strategy to target Dawson’s handling of shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 How many on here instinctively thought ‘good save’.... then oh shiiiit i did. Not blaming Dawson for either tonight 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifax Owls Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I think Dawson is better than Wildsmith but my son thinks Wildsmith is better than Dawson. We both agree that neither are good enough. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest REDAs_biG_piECE Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 And meanwhile we’re paying the best keeper in the league to sit at home still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Dawson is approximately 10 times better than Wildsmith Wildsmith would have got his timing wrong, somehow managed to get underneath the shot and it would have ended up spinning back over him into the net 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamthesun Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, Ian said: And yet for all that we concede less goals than most of the league despite a makeshift defence in front of him Hows that work then? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck! Pointing our a flaw in the goalie’s technique does NOT equate to slagging off the whole defence. If he didn’t keep making this mistake we’d have an even better record wouldn’t we. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 46 minutes ago, mattitheowl said: Yeah and you're taught to land a corner on the penalty spot but how many times do corner takers manage that? It's easy to say what he should have done, I'm sure Dawson didn't WANT to just drop it on a plate for Toney, but you can't always control where it goes. Christ if no keeper ever couldn't control every shot there would be no goals ever! Don’t bother defending him. He does it every time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Theboylangers Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 We will continue to concede what I would call avoidable goals whilst Dawson or Wildsmith are in the net. Neither are good enough for this level. If I had to make a choice, I would choose Wildsmith. In reality we should have signed a new keeper but Monk is clearly happy with what we've got so it is what it is for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I bet Lee Camp asked to keep fit with us because he can see what’s going to happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 How often do you see a shot from 25 yards result in the goalkeeper making a save with his forearm? That in itself is the error. You get your hands on it because, it gives you control. At this level, it’s not good enough to simply get there. You have to be in control of the situation. Other teams are targeting this as it’s a fundamental flaw in our Goalkeepers technique. Yet we still have people trying to make excuses. I don’t blame Dawson, he can’t only be as good as his skill set allows, I blame Monk. The keepers were an issue last season and, it’s not been addressed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) Week after week goal keepers costing multi million pounds make errors that cost goals...none more so that the one currently seen as England’s number 1 and top of the league Ours makes a mistake and it’s the end of the world, need a new keeper blah blah blah Keepers make mistake....in the eyes of this board ours more than most....but that because we really only watch ours 90 minutes a week Unrealistic expectations Edited October 21, 2020 by Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ian said: Week after week goal keepers costing multi million pounds make errors that cost goals...none more so that the one currently seen as England’s number 1 and top of the league Ours makes a mistake and it’s the end of the world, need a new keeper blah blah blah Keepers make mistake....in the eyes of this board ours more than most....but that because we really only watch ours 90 minutes a week Unrealistic expectations Unrealistic comparisons more like. I’d wager Dawson is in the lower echelons of ability and performances vs his Championship peers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, McRightSide said: Unrealistic comparisons more like. I’d wager Dawson is in the lower echelons of ability and performances vs his Championship peers Why is it unrealistic?.....it would be if I was comparing with national league keepers but I’m not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, Ian said: Why is it unrealistic?.....it would be if I was comparing with national league keepers but I’m not Well Pickford hasn’t been conceding 1.7 goals a game all year for a start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0wl18 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ian said: Week after week goal keepers costing multi million pounds make errors that cost goals...none more so that the one currently seen as England’s number 1 and top of the league Outs makes a mistake and it’s the end of the world, need a new keeper blah blah blah Keepers make mistake....in the eyes of this board ours more than most....but that because we really only watch ours 90 minutes a week Unrealistic expectations The issue isn’t about goalkeepers making mistakes. it’s managers having the inability to see the errors and, do something about it. Dawson has made numerous errors leading to goals in the last 12 months. It’s not 1 or 2 isolated incidents, it’s every other week. If someone isn’t up to it, they’re simply not up to it. Will Pickford be England’s number 1 of his form continues? Doubtful. Is Kepa Chelsea’s number 1? Nope. How Joe Hart getting on? Kiko Casilla seems to be doing well at Leeds. How’s Neil Etheridge doing at Cardiff? Simon Mingolet at Liverpool? Lorus Karius at Liverpool? If a player isn’t good enough, you replace them with someone who’s better. It doesn’t mean they won’t make a mistake. It means they make LESS mistakes. Nothing unrealistic about that. It’s what every club in the country does every transfer window. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, 0wl18 said: The issue isn’t about goalkeepers making mistakes. it’s managers having the inability to see the errors and, do something about it. Dawson has made numerous errors leading to goals in the last 12 months. It’s not 1 or 2 isolated incidents, it’s every other week. If someone isn’t up to it, they’re simply not up to it. Will Pickford be England’s number 1 of his form continues? Doubtful. Is Kepa Chelsea’s number 1? Nope. How Joe Hart getting on? Kiko Casilla seems to be doing well at Leeds. How’s Neil Etheridge doing at Cardiff? Simon Mingolet at Liverpool? Lorus Karius at Liverpool? If a player isn’t good enough, you replace them with someone who’s better. It doesn’t mean they won’t make a mistake. It means they make LESS mistakes. Nothing unrealistic about that. It’s what every club in the country does every transfer window. Or...you give them a 5 year contract The Wednesday way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_ Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 How long can we use the "Dawson is only young, he's developing" excuse? He's 25. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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