Burnsie Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 35 minutes ago, Animis said: I don't get the Beatie situation. Gardening leave is intended to apply for your notice period. The implies these back-room staff don't have notice periods, but surely they can resign under employment law. How is it possible for an employer to control your employment for the length of the contract without any severance/resignation protection. It's also odd that Birmingham would want to continue paying someone for two although he's technically left his job. If they have an issue with Beattie, sue him for breach of contract. It's all very petty, and presumably Brum's conditions only apply to championship rivals? well, thats how contracts work, dont they? you sign up for a 2 year phone contract, 5 year player contract, you cant just say "here's my 4 weeks notice, I'm off" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Monk deserves a chance at the club with his own staff and his own players. This will be a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 If we continue with Monk, hopefully the Beattie impasse can be resolved so he can join us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, Burnsie said: well, thats how contracts work, dont they? you sign up for a 2 year phone contract, 5 year player contract, you cant just say "here's my 4 weeks notice, I'm off" Depends what’s in the contract.. sometimes there’s a break clause or a severance figure. If Birmingham weren’t happy to pay his wages then they would let him go for another club to pay them instead. Surprising they would choose to hold out for compensation when it’s costing them money which they could save by allowing him to sign elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 was it the chap from/who went to the Gooners that everyone attributed Dave Jones' success too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Sooner Monk can bring his own people in the better. People like Bullen and Weaver etc need to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, mogbad said: So we demand compensation from Newcastle for Bruce & his 2 assistants but won't pay compensation to Birmingham for one of Monks coaches. And from the reports we got a hell of a lot of compo. Ridiculous we wouldn’t pay some to get who Monk wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: Sooner Monk can bring his own people in the better. People like Bullen and Weaver etc need to move on. Keep seeing this posted Nobody has ever posted WHY and given any detail as to what they've done wrong Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: And from the reports we got a hell of a lot of compo. Ridiculous we wouldn’t pay some to get who Monk wanted. what if they wanted a silly amount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Keep seeing this posted Nobody has ever posted WHY and given any detail as to what they've done wrong Yes men, all of them. Get rid and get people in who know and love the shirt, and install some passion...... oh, erm.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Keep seeing this posted Nobody has ever posted WHY and given any detail as to what they've done wrong I'd keep Weaver as Goalkeeping is specialist coaching and he hasn't been around the first team squad that long plus Lev Yashin would struggle to turn Dawson into a decent keeper. As for Bullen and Thompson, they've been around the club 7/8 years. It's time to freshen the coaching set-up just like the playing squad? Edited May 17, 2020 by Great Big Galaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, JoshTheOwl said: come on now, didn’t you know money grows on trees and it can just be spunked away 24/7? Certainly does when some what to criticise the club...couldn't make it up .. we should have spent even more money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Monk has made a career of being a stop gap (1 year) manager Why pay to up root his backroom staff? If the season hadn't been furloughed, we'd already be sounding out potential replacements imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Next season is probably already a write off with Monk in charge so would rather we didn’t waste more money bringing in his chosen assistants. Clear the lot out and start again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 51 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Keep seeing this posted Nobody has ever posted WHY and given any detail as to what they've done wrong because a manager to be judged fairly needs his own people around him, people he knows and trusts. I’m not the biggest fan of Monk but I think it’s very unfair he has to work with people that he didn’t choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, TrickyTrev said: Monk deserves a chance at the club with his own staff and his own players. This will be a step in the right direction. He deserves sod all chance. He's another Jos and it's about time we stopped giving chances to these useless tw@ts that can't man manage the squad they have plus play f***ing sticking pins in your eyes football. Go and get Lowe before it's too f***ing late. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, TrickyTrev said: Monk deserves a chance at the club with his own staff and his own players. This will be a step in the right direction. 1 hour ago, WalthamOwl said: Sooner Monk can bring his own people in the better. People like Bullen and Weaver etc need to move on. 2 wins in the last 14 league games. Monk has had his chance for me. His contract here is up next month. We shouldn’t extend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Burnsie said: well, thats how contracts work, dont they? you sign up for a 2 year phone contract, 5 year player contract, you cant just say "here's my 4 weeks notice, I'm off" Don't think so - yes it's a fixed term contract, but anything could happen during that period, which means you may want to resign. Are we saying you simply can't resign from a job? I understand a player being held under contract, as the club would want to protect the transfer fee they paid, but a coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Great Big Galaa said: I'd keep Weaver as Goalkeeping is specialist coaching and he hasn't been around the first team squad that long plus Lev Yashin would struggle to turn Dawson into a decent keeper. As for Bullen and Thompson, they've been around the club 7/8 years. It's time to freshen the coaching set-up just like the playing squad? If the players have changed why would you need to change the coaches? They'd be talking to totally different players wouldn't' they? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, Great Big Galaa said: He deserves sod all chance. He's another Jos and it's about time we stopped giving chances to these useless tw@ts that can't man manage the squad they have plus play f***ing sticking pins in your eyes football. Go and get Lowe before it's too f***ing late. There's this disease amongst some of our fans that forces their brains to only look at former players of this club whenever a manager or coaches position is available I am pretty sure other clubs don't suffer from this disease, so why do our fans suffer from it? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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