WalthamOwl Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, mogbad said: So basically if Monk & the squad had done their jobs in the 2nd half of the season the 12 point deduction would have been applied to the season just finished & we'd be starting the new season on a level footing with the rest of the Championship. makes some of those pathetic performances and results even more annoying. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, mogbad said: So basically if Monk & the squad had done their jobs in the 2nd half of the season the 12 point deduction would have been applied to the season just finished & we'd be starting the new season on a level footing with the rest of the Championship. Think we already knew this (or at least strongly suspected), but yes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 So now would be the perfect time to make a derisory bid for Macauley Bonne then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 35 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Never looked like a footballer to me, Gregory He is a qualified electrician though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, mogbad said: So basically if Monk & the squad had done their jobs in the 2nd half of the season the 12 point deduction would have been applied to the season just finished & we'd be starting the new season on a level footing with the rest of the Championship. Read it again. The report said the penalty for the first breach should have been imposed before the end of the 2018-19 season. However, that would not have sent the club down in that campaign — so the EFL went after them in the season just ended. That's the season before the one just ended. So they couldn't even get their act together the season just ended either. Nothing to do with Monk. They wanted to relegate us full stop. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 The EFL will be baying for our blood going forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, wilyfox said: He is a qualified electrician though. Great. We need a little spark up front. FFS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, OwlBiSeeinThi said: Read it again. The report said the penalty for the first breach should have been imposed before the end of the 2018-19 season. However, that would not have sent the club down in that campaign — so the EFL went after them in the season just ended. That's the season before the one just ended. So they couldn't even get their act together the season just ended either. Nothing to do with Monk. They wanted to relegate us full stop. Looks like they vwere waiting for us to finish 11 points outside the relegation zone some season, any season, but in the end had to make it -12 before the season starts The question is why didn't they deduct the points in 2018-9. Hopefully the report will say.... maybe that is sufficient ground ls to appeal and they have to backdate the penalty to the appropriate season so it complies with the rules and has no impact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 52 minutes ago, Owls-Fan said: Might be this? https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12413633/efl-relegate-wednesday-bungled-charlton/amp/ Sh*t me. How furious would you be if we were in Charlton's position? Yet more spectacular incompetence from the EFL. Perhaps we should hand our player of the season award to them as well, seeing how they did more to keep us in the Championship than anyone else? And also serves to underline just how stupid our financial 'strategy' was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, nbupperthongowl said: Looks like they vwere waiting for us to finish 11 points outside the relegation zone some season, any season, but in the end had to make it -12 before the season starts The question is why didn't they deduct the points in 2018-9. Hopefully the report will say.... maybe that is sufficient ground ls to appeal and they have to backdate the penalty to the appropriate season so it complies with the rules and has no impact If Carlsberg did point deductions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Expect biased referees against us next season. The efl will want is relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 We deserved to go down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 minute ago, meggoisgod said: We deserved to go down Which season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, OwlBiSeeinThi said: Which season? Last 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 The efl appear to be absolute vindictive dross. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, meggoisgod said: Last 3 If they had applied the deduction when they should have we wouldn't have gone down and started the last season without this hanging over us. The EFL are now just trying to save face after royally ******** up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 39 minutes ago, nbupperthongowl said: Looks like they vwere waiting for us to finish 11 points outside the relegation zone some season, any season, but in the end had to make it -12 before the season starts The question is why didn't they deduct the points in 2018-9. Hopefully the report will say.... maybe that is sufficient ground ls to appeal and they have to backdate the penalty to the appropriate season so it complies with the rules and has no impact If this is true it's a disgrace. So they waited to charge to ensure penalty not applied when it should have been (2018/2019 because we would have stayed up) Then reading between lines were happy for case to drag on as we were top half of table before Xmas so 12points meaningless but.. Only tried to rush case through in June because of our bad form and they thought they could relegate us. Sounds like they were manipulating their own system to make an example out of us. If true can expect chansiri going after EFL big time. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 minute ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: If this is true it's a disgrace. So they waited to charge to ensure penalty not applied when it should have been (2018/2019 because we would have stayed up) Then reading between lines were happy for case to drag on as we were top half of table before Xmas so 12points meaningless but.. Only tried to rush case through in June because of our bad form and they thought they could relegate us. Sounds like they were manipulating their own system to make an example out of us. If true can expect chansiri going after EFL big time. If he does he has to have a watertight case and must result in all the incumbent EFL decision makers being forced to step down otherwise this will never end for us. They have to shown to be unfit for purpose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 44 minutes ago, DJMortimer said: Sh*t me. How furious would you be if we were in Charlton's position? Yet more spectacular incompetence from the EFL. Perhaps we should hand our player of the season award to them as well, seeing how they did more to keep us in the Championship than anyone else? And also serves to underline just how stupid our financial 'strategy' was. It's us that should be furious mate. Report says they should have charges us for FFP in 18/19 when we would have easily survived with a 12 point deduction. They then wrecked our season last year bringing charges in November. They were after a big club to send down to set an example / warning to others after Birmingham's deduction didn't matter 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts completely. If this is true and can be proved the EFL have lost the moral high ground and must be removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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