modboy Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Has mcgoldrick really got a united tattoo on the back of his neck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 57 minutes ago, owler66 said: This moaning about the referee getting in the way he's part of the game,a goal counts if it comes of the referee Nah that one was wrong. Ball touches the ref, it's a drop ball to the attacking team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Liverpool are relentless. If the pigs get owt from this game I would be very surprised. That save from Henderson was fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Nah that one was wrong. Ball touches the ref, it's a drop ball to the attacking team. Correct, but in that case the ref didn't touch it, Fleck controlled the ball 5 yards in front of him then tried to blame the ref for his poor touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Correct, but in that case the ref didn't touch it, Fleck controlled the ball 5 yards in front of him then tried to blame the ref for his poor touch. Ref was stood right on top of him. The touch doesn't happen if he doesnt get in the way. That's one VAR missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Ref was stood right on top of him. The touch doesn't happen if he doesnt get in the way. That's one VAR missed. VAR was consulted, it didn't miss anything because the ref did not touch the ball, them's the rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 How have United not conceded a penalty today? Every corner and free kick into box they are all over Van Dijk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 How did that one stop out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Just now, hirstyboywonder said: VAR was consulted, it didn't miss anything because the ref did not touch the ball, them's the rules! Problem is, had the ref stopped play himself even after the ball had gone it, would VAR had said he was wrong? No, because there is no precedent for it. Either way could have been legal. It should have been a Blades free kick, not a goal though IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Easy easy easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Problem is, had the ref stopped play himself even after the ball had gone it, would VAR had said he was wrong? No, because there is no precedent for it. Either way could have been legal. It should have been a Blades free kick, not a goal though IMO. The ref didn't stop play because he didn't touch the ball - that is the rule - why would he stop play otherwise? Watch the highlights, ref didn't move into the way, he was there when the Utd player played a 5-yard pass to Fleck who failed to control it. https://www.skysports.com/football/man-city-vs-sheff-utd/408175 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: The ref didn't stop play because he didn't touch the ball - that is the rule - why would he stop play otherwise? Watch the highlights, ref didn't move into the way, he was there when the Utd player played a 5-yard pass to Fleck who failed to control it. https://www.skysports.com/football/man-city-vs-sheff-utd/408175 Why didn't he control it though? Cos he had the ref standing on his shoulder about to tackle him. Its one if those the ref should have used common sense and stopped play. Had he chalked it off after it went in, VAR wouldn't have overturned it. One of them, both outcomes would be classed as correct and legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Why didn't he control it though? Cos he had the ref standing on his shoulder about to tackle him. Its one if those the ref should have used common sense and stopped play. Had he chalked it off after it went in, VAR wouldn't have overturned it. One of them, both outcomes would be classed as correct and legal. Going round in circles here but at least you acknowledge the correct decision was reached as there is nothing in the rules for the ref to stop play in this instance. Common sense would have been not to pass it into the area where the ref was already positioned. If he thought the ref was about to tackle him he should have controlled the ball better! Had he decided to chalk it off for something that is not within the rules for him to chalk it off Man City would have been rightly apoplectic. Edited January 2, 2020 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Why didn't he control it though? Cos he had the ref standing on his shoulder about to tackle him. Its one if those the ref should have used common sense and stopped play. Had he chalked it off after it went in, VAR wouldn't have overturned it. One of them, both outcomes would be classed as correct and legal. You seem to be getting your opinion mixed up with the rules. It’s only a free kick if the referee touches the ball. He didn’t. There was a VAR check and they saw that it was legitimate, so the goal stood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Anyone (man, woman, child) who takes a sign to football should be instantly kicked out if the ground and banned forever. "Sadio Can I please have your shirt..." F*ck off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 1 minute ago, hirstyboywonder said: Going round in circles here but at least you acknowledge the correct decision was reached as there is nothing in the rules for the ref to stop play in this instance. Common sense would have been not to pass it into the area where the ref was already positioned. If he thought the ref was about to tackle him he should have controlled the ball better! Had he decided to chalk it off for something that is not within the rules for him to chalk it off Man City would have been rightly apoplectic. VAR wouldn't havent given it though had he had that is my point. Common sense would be for the referee to not be that close to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, punkskaphil said: You seem to be getting your opinion mixed up with the rules. It’s only a free kick if the referee touches the ball. He didn’t. There was a VAR check and they saw that it was legitimate, so the goal stood. They are laws mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 First time I have seen the “ref gate” incident. Far to much being made of it. Nothing in the rules to justify the goal being ruled out. Why did the United player pass it straight at the referee is the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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