Athelwulf Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 hours ago, VBQ24 said: F*cking pigs have to be the luckiest club in existence. Now they're all talking about next season's Europa League FFS. Get them down ASAP I can't cope They're certainly fortunate in their management. Mind you, as with all things the sword has too edges. I mean, if Wilder does an outstanding job at the Lane with a group of players which shouldn't really be doing so well, as happened last season, then it's only a matter of time before the big guns come sniffing. He remained the invisible man in the Championship, but that won't be the case now. Once he does the Shoreham Shuffle then United's problems will begin, in spades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted August 18, 2019 Author Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Gib said: One of the only things that I thought was poor about the Blades was their record signing. Meant to be some brute up front but was getting knocked over all over the place. Think I’d have spent the £20m somewhere else. Last season they were getting fouls for getting blown over. Noticed the stats said by the end if 1st half they'd been given 3 free kicks Edited August 18, 2019 by darra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: They're certainly fortunate in their management. Mind you, as with all things the sword has too edges. I mean, if Wilder does an outstanding job at the Lane with a group of players which shouldn't really be doing so well, as happened last season, then it's only a matter of time before the big guns come sniffing. He remained the invisible man in the Championship, but that won't be the case now. Once he does the Shoreham Shuffle then United's problems will begin, in spades. Or in the case of the Poundland Prince taking over the Sty if he wins the legal battle,then it will be in the number of Bogrolls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 50 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: I mean, if Wilder does an outstanding job at the Lane with a group of players which shouldn't really be doing so well, as happened last season, then it's only a matter of time before the big guns come sniffing. I don't get this Who are "the big guns"? Newcastle maybe? Palace? He'll never get one of the genuine top jobs - such as Utd, Liverpool etc - he's already in the premier so nearly all other moves would be sideways - if the pigs get relegated then his stock automatically starts to fall and he becomes less coveted His best hope is to move to a bigger club a few rungs up the ladder - such as newcastle - but he won't be wanted further up and it's even doubtful whether somebody like Toon dare take another punt if the Bruce experiment fails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 hours ago, scram said: Hodgson won't last long at this rate Palace have been woeful - i can't even see what they trying to do Pigs are decent but there is no denying just how rubbish Palace are - i fear for them if they stumble along like this for much longer. Last season they played their get out of jail card - they need to learn Fast They're an adequate replacement for Stoke City. Scrap for everything, pick up odd points and not very pleasing to the eye. Jamie Vardy has promised me he's going to wear a WAWAW T-shirt when he scores at the Lane. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, scram said: I don't get this Who are "the big guns"? Newcastle maybe? Palace? He'll never get one of the genuine top jobs - such as Utd, Liverpool etc - he's already in the premier so nearly all other moves would be sideways - if the pigs get relegated then his stock automatically starts to fall and he becomes less coveted His best hope is to move to a bigger club a few rungs up the ladder - such as newcastle - but he won't be wanted further up and it's even doubtful whether somebody like Toon dare take another punt if the Bruce experiment fails If that scenario came to pass there would be only two options for Ashley. One is God and the other a very close relative, Lucifer he of the 666. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growl67 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, scram said: I don't get this Who are "the big guns"? Newcastle maybe? Palace? He'll never get one of the genuine top jobs - such as Utd, Liverpool etc - he's already in the premier so nearly all other moves would be sideways - if the pigs get relegated then his stock automatically starts to fall and he becomes less coveted His best hope is to move to a bigger club a few rungs up the ladder - such as newcastle - but he won't be wanted further up and it's even doubtful whether somebody like Toon dare take another punt if the Bruce experiment fails I agree. If there was any demand for Wilder type managers by top end clubs, both Bournemouth and Burnley would have lost their managers a while ago and so unless they crash and burn or he has a fallout with their owners I can’t see Wilder going anywhere anytime soon unfortunately. It’d be interesting to see how the aforementioned would get on at bigger clubs, I personally think they’d do a better jobs than most of the imported coaches if given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Since the start of the 2016-17 season, Chris Wilder has won 77 league matches - only Pep Guardiola, with 88 victories, has won more in that time among managers in England's top four divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Just now, Lord Snooty said: Since the start of the 2016-17 season, Chris Wilder has won 77 league matches - only Pep Guardiola, with 88 victories, has won more in that time among managers in England's top four divisions. Thats a meanigless stat though isn't it His record cannot be compared to Klopp or Poch for eg - even if he has won more matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, scram said: Thats a meanigless stat though isn't it His record cannot be compared to Klopp or Poch for eg - even if he has won more matches Many games where they were the 'biggest' team in the 3rd division . Mind, much as I think he's a humourless dobber, it's a decent points haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Many games where they were the 'biggest' team in the 3rd division . Mind, much as I think he's a humourless dobber, it's a decent points haul. Yes it is I do think way too much is made of his record prior to joining the pigs though Looks liek they have struck lucky because i don't think his record suggested they had appointed this gem of a manager that was sweeping away all before him Can't argue with his record at the pigs though - or the way they play Credit where it's due Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katie melua Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, scram said: Yes it is I do think way too much is made of his record prior to joining the pigs though Looks liek they have struck lucky because i don't think his record suggested they had appointed this gem of a manager that was sweeping away all before him Can't argue with his record at the pigs though - or the way they play Credit where it's due I may have misinterpreted this but it sounds like you're saying they were lucky? He did a magnificent job at Northampton Town. Northampton were bottom of the fourth division and heading for the Conference when he took over after the disaster that was Aidy Boothroyd. For a side with no confidence and heading towards relegation, he somehow kept them up - only losing three games from February. It was a fantastic achievement Then he did a rebuild getting them comfortably mid-table in his first full season with them. The next season, they won the league with 99 points. That's what got him noticed by United, his rebuilding job in turning Northampton in 2 and a half seasons from a side heading towards the conference to a third division side. People may go on about his record with that lot, but the job he did at Northampton was what made him. He may have got Oxford United out of the conference but never really pushed on, hence taking a huge gamble in the Northampton job. I think Oxford were in the play off positions when he resigned to take over Northampton in February of that season Edited August 18, 2019 by katie melua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 He had one FL promotion in 6 years That's so mundane it's painful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greengrass Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Old Roy appears to have a few issues to deal with at Palace, they were utter gash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibernian Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 On 10/08/2019 at 12:36, darra said: Looking on Twitter yesterday seems quite a few have them coming bottom. A few others around 17th. Not all local tweets either good spread from around england. I didn't realise it was Twitter who decided relegation issues. Thanks for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, scram said: Yes it is I do think way too much is made of his record prior to joining the pigs though Looks liek they have struck lucky because i don't think his record suggested they had appointed this gem of a manager that was sweeping away all before him Can't argue with his record at the pigs though - or the way they play (BFR used to call it scramble football. He would deploy it when things weren't going so well) Credit where it's due Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBQ24 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Athelwulf said: They're certainly fortunate in their management. Mind you, as with all things the sword has too edges. I mean, if Wilder does an outstanding job at the Lane with a group of players which shouldn't really be doing so well, as happened last season, then it's only a matter of time before the big guns come sniffing. He remained the invisible man in the Championship, but that won't be the case now. Once he does the Shoreham Shuffle then United's problems will begin, in spades. Let's hope so. Sick of hearing about the f*ckers. I felt sorry for them after so long in League One, wish I'd laughed in their faces now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Not surprised they won today, Palace are garbage if you manage to shut down Zaha. Hodgson got his tactics badly wrong but he won't be the only one this season, Wilder's system will catch a lot of teams out in the early running. Suspect it'll take til Christmas before teams start to work it out, by which point I've got a nasty feeling the Blunts will be a long way towards staying up. Sticking with my prediction of Norwich, Newcastle and Palace to go down unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 11 hours ago, scram said: I don't get this Who are "the big guns"? Newcastle maybe? Palace? He'll never get one of the genuine top jobs - such as Utd, Liverpool etc - he's already in the premier so nearly all other moves would be sideways - if the pigs get relegated then his stock automatically starts to fall and he becomes less coveted His best hope is to move to a bigger club a few rungs up the ladder - such as newcastle - but he won't be wanted further up and it's even doubtful whether somebody like Toon dare take another punt if the Bruce experiment fails Yes, I don't see any of that top mini-league being interested by him. But I could see a club like, say, Villa or Everton taking a punt. A middle-ranking PL team. Everton were interested in Dyche, for instance, in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Athelwulf said: Yes, I don't see any of that top mini-league being interested by him. But I could see a club like, say, Villa or Everton taking a punt. A middle-ranking PL team. Everton were interested in Dyche, for instance, in the past. Strange folk these football chairmen Wilder or Lampard......its a tricky one Brainless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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