Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, alanharper said: They're not though are they? Nowhere near enough, because we don't create enough chances. We're 27 league games into the season and our top scorer has 8 goals. There are 18 players in the division who have scored more goals than our top scorer, some of them are midfielders and some clubs have two players above him. Joao actually has a pretty decent goals per game record but after his 8 goals (half of which he's basically created for himself) our next highest scorer is a midfielder and our other two regular strikers have managed 4 and 2 goals respectively. Again you've just repeated my point. The strikers are still scoring on the limited chances they are getting. It's not their fault for our lack of goals. Edited January 13, 2019 by Birley Owl 1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Just now, handworth52 said: take it you didn't go yesterday? he couldn't jump an inch to try to win a ball and quite rightly got stick from us for it. he has his 2 year deal and now might as well sit on his fat arse as he is offering absolutely nothing on the pitch. How high did Hooper jump? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Just now, asteener1867 said: How high did Hooper jump? only time hooper jumps is either when he cant see his golf ball on the coarse or hen he jumps up with excitement knowing he gets 29k a week for doing sod all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlcoholic Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Animis said: Winnall was the leading scorer in the Championship when we bought him - he was given barely a chance due to the Rhodes signing, but chipped in when played. Shipped out to Derby with little thought IMO. Little thought? Carlos was chomping at the bit to get Butterfield in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, alanharper said: They're not though are they? Nowhere near enough, because we don't create enough chances. We're 27 league games into the season and our top scorer has 8 goals. There are 18 players in the division who have scored more goals than our top scorer, some of them are midfielders and some clubs have two players above him. Joao actually has a pretty decent goals per game record but after his 8 goals (half of which he's basically created for himself) our next highest scorer is a midfielder and our other two regular strikers have managed 4 and 2 goals respectively. Only four teams have scored less than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s6 owl Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: Yea..like it wouldn't be easy enough to play him offside.. Not if we attack the byline and pull it back... Oh in fact forget that idea we aren't capable of doing something as basic as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np pontefract Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, S36 OWL said: Our top scorer has 8 goals. There lies our problem . Our top scorer has 9 goals and is currently playing for Norwich City. And that's just one of our problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlcoholic Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 minute ago, np pontefract said: Our top scorer has 9 goals and is currently playing for Norwich City. And that's just one of our problems. Would be almightily surprised if Rhodes would have as many as that the way we're performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np pontefract Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Owlcoholic said: Would be almightily surprised if Rhodes would have as many as that the way we're performing. You're right. Not creating chances for our Forwards is another one of our problems. It has been for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb n Custard Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Is Penney Injured ? I'd like to see him developed if not, seems to have fallen out of favour. He's young so bound to make the odd gaff, but the Lad is quick, has skill and not afraid to get forward. Final ball needs work but his attacking intent what we sorely need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 The only time I've been impressed by Winnall are his highlights from his time at Barnsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rhubarb n Custard said: Is Penney Injured ? I'd like to see him developed if not, seems to have fallen out of favour. He's young so bound to make the odd gaff, but the Lad is quick, has skill and not afraid to get forward. Final ball needs work but his attacking intent what we sorely need. He's got to learn to concentrate for an hour and a half before he can be considered for selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb n Custard Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: He's got to learn to concentrate for an hour and a half before he can be considered for selection. Take your point but we're leaking goals anyway, at least he offers a threat even if it comes at a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rhubarb n Custard said: Take your point but we're leaking goals anyway, at least he offers a threat even if it comes at a price. He could be one for the future.. I hope he comes good. The real problem we've got is that we've just been trounced by Hull... with a team that shouldn't be hammered by any one in this division...there will be an exodus and we need the right ones in and the wrong ones out... we're not good at this sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Winnall and Fletcher, oh joy of joys Let’s hope Bruce has identified a new striker, and our useless recruitment team, can get the deal over the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamK2292 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Animis said: Winnall was the leading scorer in the Championship when we bought him - he was given barely a chance due to the Rhodes signing, but chipped in when played. Shipped out to Derby with little thought IMO. Feel sorry for Winnall. His goal spree/confidence at Barnsley has gone to waste, only we could do such a thing. And then the loan swap with Butterfield was a tragic decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ka58 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, np pontefract said: Our top scorer has 9 goals and is currently playing for Norwich City. And that's just one of our problems. Hes scored 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb n Custard Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: He could be one for the future.. I hope he comes good. The real problem we've got is that we've just been trounced by Hull... with a team that shouldn't be hammered by any one in this division...there will be an exodus and we need the right ones in and the wrong ones out... we're not good at this sort of thing For me, dependant on contracts, we should sell/release Boyd, Fox, Niuhu, Fletcher, Lees, Abdi, Van Aken and Pelupessy. I'd preferably like to keep FF, Bannan & Reach, that said I don't see how Bruce will have a funds to rebuild without selling any of them. It's tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) The tactic of a single central striker is to allow players from a 5 man midfield to make forward runs in behind the opposition defence. Neither Fletcher or Nuhiu seemed capable of holding off the Hull defenders long enough. The midfielders simply stopped or never even started making those runs. The result was a constant stream of Hull attacking as we did not retain possession. More work on the training ground or a change of formation needed. Luton will be analysing yesterday’s game in detail tomorrow I fear. Edited January 13, 2019 by Blatter Corrected autospel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssexOwl Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I have had enough of looking at a front line that does not give expectation of goals. I don't mean a worldy or a pen or a deflection. I mean somebody that is able to shoot and score in the 6 or 18 yard box. Someone who knows where the ball will be played from and where. Someone who does not head It over, wide or fall over. Someone who gives a poo , someone who cares without needing to "choose" to care. Someone that is good enough, young enough and fit enough. Maybe I expect too much, but maybe we have all got used to an abject forward line. Winnall is probably all that exists that "could" deliver on all fronts. That is not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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