Luke Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 hours ago, sherlyegg said: Been there, a twot to get too, nearest tube station 40 mins walk, buses from milan city centre take forever...if you think Hillsborough traffic is bad, you should go there and find out what bad is you do realise, I wasn't suggesting moving to Milan was you and I said I've been 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 4 hours ago, Quist said: Hillsborough is poorly located for transport is not in city centre. How many clubs are located in city centres.? Why is Hillsborough poorly located for transport? You could say the same about most grounds in the country, nearly all are a fooookin traffic nightmare. Why would moving improve transport, we are not responsible for transport the wonk council are...so moving would be no different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, WelshOwl74 said: you do realise, I wasn't suggesting moving to Milan was you and I said I've been Yeah, you said...did you think the bovril tasted like coffee? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jomaco Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Even in it's current state, Hillsborough looks great to me. It would be magnificent with renovation. I kind of like the basic facilities anyway. It's a football stadium not a shopping centre. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomtheOwl95 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 When people often talk about transport. It's not always the transport system itself that is the problem it's often the incompetence of the people traveling on them, often away fans not knowing where they're going. It's never going to be perfect, 20000+ people heading to one place for one specific time will always cause some issue. Moving wouldn't change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 9 hours ago, casbahowl said: Reading have special match day busses from the train station to the ground and back at a cost of £2 each way which makes it extremely comparable to Sheffield but they’re under used because no one wants to go out to a soulless business park next to a motorway! With match day prices being the cheapest in the division AND subsidised busses to and from the ground they still struggle to half fill it. They also have a hotel which is NEVER anywhere near full built into the ground which is also a massive white elephant! Reading will be lucky to survive in the championship this season and could easily end up back in the third tier of English football with massive outgoings and minimal income. Should this happen Reading would be in grave danger of being the first EFL club to go into liquidation as a direct result of moving to a pre packed soulless out of town bowl that locals have absolutely no affiliation to ! Be careful what you wish for! Readings average gate since they moved to the Madejski has been 16,700 (and remained fairly static in the last 10 years at 17900) In the 20 years prior to moving to the Madejski their average gate was 6090 Seems like the locals love it - rather than feel no affiliation to it Readings problems are nothing to do with their stadium. Far from it. Incidentally, in the last 20 years since moving to the Madejski theyve spent 3 seasons in the Premier, 13 in the Championship and 4 in Division 1. Theyve been more successful than we have with our 'magnificent' stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: Readings average gate since they moved to the Madejski has been 16,700 (and remained fairly static in the last 10 years at 17900) In the 20 years prior to moving to the Madejski their average gate was 6090 Seems like the locals love it - rather than feel no affiliation to it Readings problems are nothing to do with their stadium. Far from it. Incidentally, in the last 20 years since moving to the Madejski theyve spent 3 seasons in the Premier, 13 in the Championship and 4 in Division 1. Theyve been more successful than we have with our 'magnificent' stadium It's ćřap I'm afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 37 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: Readings average gate since they moved to the Madejski has been 16,700 (and remained fairly static in the last 10 years at 17900) In the 20 years prior to moving to the Madejski their average gate was 6090 Seems like the locals love it - rather than feel no affiliation to it Readings problems are nothing to do with their stadium. Far from it. Incidentally, in the last 20 years since moving to the Madejski theyve spent 3 seasons in the Premier, 13 in the Championship and 4 in Division 1. Theyve been more successful than we have with our 'magnificent' stadium And all that's nowt to do with all the money Madjeski through at them. Honest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: Readings average gate since they moved to the Madejski has been 16,700 (and remained fairly static in the last 10 years at 17900) In the 20 years prior to moving to the Madejski their average gate was 6090 Seems like the locals love it - rather than feel no affiliation to it Readings problems are nothing to do with their stadium. Far from it. Incidentally, in the last 20 years since moving to the Madejski theyve spent 3 seasons in the Premier, 13 in the Championship and 4 in Division 1. Theyve been more successful than we have with our 'magnificent' stadium Last season was the worst average attendance in the Mad Stads history, this seasons is considerably worse than that, even with the lowest prices in the division, totally unsustainable for a London catchment. 6769 attended for their championship match against the pigs in February this year and that’s the sort of crowd they’ll need to budget for if relegated . Sometimes moving ground is unavoidable, thankfully this isn’t the case with us! Edited October 14, 2018 by casbahowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j0hn0508 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 What’s all this obsession with the M1 and transport links , have you ever been to Murdehole when it’s busy it’s a flipping nightmare 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 On 11/10/2018 at 13:13, matthefish2002 said: Hillsborough is Sheffield Wednesday. Think nearly every other club who has moved has lost something. Think of West Ham in particular. Olympic stadium just isnt them. Not going to make bold statements that if SWFC moved I would never set foot in the place but certainly think twice about paying £650 plus for a season ticket. Olive Grove? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, j0hn0508 said: What’s all this obsession with the M1 and transport links , have you ever been to Murdehole when it’s busy it’s a flipping nightmare It was all part of Thatchers post Heysel/Hillsborough vision for football where a “Think Tank” of non football people drew up a 90’s blueprint to take the game into the new millennium! Deeply flawed yet some still subscribe to it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 10 hours ago, Utah Owl said: On that basis I suggest you try doing some scale measurements on your favoured north of Meadowhall site (the one between Ecclesfield Road and Blackburn Road) and explain to us all how you are possibly going to fit a football stadium in there? The site is long enough granted but it is nowhere near wide enough! I have no favoured site. I have written on here I have no idea which sites are suitable and which not. The one on Weedon Street which this post originally refers to is enormous but as indicated may not be available. Read what individuals have said. I have gone to Hillsborough for years and like the place but regardless of emotional attachment sometimes you have to realise no matter what you want it will not happen. It is extremely unlikely all things considered we would choose to rebuild at present site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 9 hours ago, sherlyegg said: How many clubs are located in city centres.? Why is Hillsborough poorly located for transport? You could say the same about most grounds in the country, nearly all are a fooookin traffic nightmare. Why would moving improve transport, we are not responsible for transport the wonk council are...so moving would be no different Look at non football income returns for clubs and you will see how poorly located Hillsborough is. Its about access surrounding facilities and parking. After a game if stay to final whistle it is minimum of 30 minutes before I get on to motorway sometimes longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 32 minutes ago, sw1867 said: Some text Dunsby posted a while ago. If you can’t be bothered to read it all, the last sentance sums it up. Written 35 years ago - and long before the flawed design of our stadium contributed to the Hillsborough Disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: Written 35 years ago - and long before the flawed design of our stadium contributed to the Hillsborough Disaster Absolute rubbish........ many factors including fans, police and most of all fences contributed to that tragic day. To say “Flawed design” of our stadium does you no favours whatsoever and indicates you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about! Absolute No Mark assertions in the poorest of taste! Edited October 14, 2018 by casbahowl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, casbahowl said: Absolute rubbish........ many factors including fans, police and most of all fences contributed to that tragic day. To say “Flawed design” of our stadium does you no favours whatsoever and indicates you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about! Absolute No Mark assertions in the poorest of taste! *sigh* The design of the stadium was named as a contributory factor in both reports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack the Hat Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 10 hours ago, billyblack said: Would they if it meant taking the club back twenty years commercially. Think they would rathet stay as is. Yes they would. They couldhave redeveloped it. They are premier league champions but still don't fill the new ground. Hence the rather embarrassing adverts you hear on the radio.the money comes from more matches being shown on TV. More matches on TV reduces the appetite for people to go to matches. City only moved cos there was a spare stadium left over from the commonwealth games. The very idea that we should leave -rather than redevelop- a great traditional stadium, next to Hillsborough park, which we don't fill at a time when more matches are shown via red button is ludicrous . People are moaning about ticket prices now. Is mr chansiri gonna build a new ground and then lower tickets. We should and will stay at home in hillsborough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: Written 35 years ago - and long before the flawed design of our stadium contributed to the Hillsborough Disaster You really can't get any lower than using the disaster to score points. Reprehensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: *sigh* The design of the stadium was named as a contributory factor in both reports Pathetic awful point scoring post...... As I said ....... No Mark!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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