asteener1867 Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I wonder if DC is thinking..."Might have done it better the other way around"? This is a total hindsight post, cos loads of us bought into what seems to have been "Bang or bust" for the last couple of seasons. Looking at it now, we seem to have a manager who can make a silk purse out of a sows ear, ageing players on big contracts that are either missing, or injured, or whatever. A group of youngsters who have cost next to nowt stepping up, while a £10 million player is out on loan playing for a rival, FFP looming, and lo and behold we seem to be lumbered with the initial cash laid out..when..If we had done it the other way around? Its a stark lesson isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: I wonder if DC is thinking..."Might have done it better the other way around"? This is a total hindsight post, cos loads of us bought into what seems to have been "Bang or bust" for the last couple of seasons. Looking at it now, we seem to have a manager who can make a silk purse out of a sows ear, ageing players on big contracts that are either missing, or injured, or whatever. A group of youngsters who have cost next to nowt stepping up, while a £10 million player is out on loan playing for a rival, FFP looming, and lo and behold we seem to be lumbered with the initial cash laid out..when..If we had done it the other way around? Its a stark lesson isn't it? I would think the original plan was to build towards promotion but when promotion presented itself in the first season of CC reign they had to go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontCallMeOwlCallYou Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Watson said: I would think the original plan was to build towards promotion but when promotion presented itself in the first season of CC reign they had to go for it. Agree, maybe we were victims of our own success in CCs first season. And they thought experience would get us over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Just now, dontCallMeOwlCallYou said: Agree, maybe we were victims of our own success in CCs first season. And they thought experience would get us over the line. Yep if CC reign had been in reverse order it would have been reasonable to believe he would still be here. Very much as you say a victim of his own success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: I wonder if DC is thinking..."Might have done it better the other way around"? This is a total hindsight post, cos loads of us bought into what seems to have been "Bang or bust" for the last couple of seasons. Looking at it now, we seem to have a manager who can make a silk purse out of a sows ear, ageing players on big contracts that are either missing, or injured, or whatever. A group of youngsters who have cost next to nowt stepping up, while a £10 million player is out on loan playing for a rival, FFP looming, and lo and behold we seem to be lumbered with the initial cash laid out..when..If we had done it the other way around? Its a stark lesson isn't it? 3 minutes ago, Watson said: I would think the original plan was to build towards promotion but when promotion presented itself in the first season of CC reign they had to go for it. Agree with both posts but I still think ."Might have done it better the other way around"? as @asteener1867 says, in hindsight would have been the better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Maybe Dejphon listened to the wrong guys? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 27 minutes ago, Watson said: I would think the original plan was to build towards promotion but when promotion presented itself in the first season of CC reign they had to go for it. But we didn't go for it did we? We all knew what we needed and it wasn't addressed. We bought ageing, expensive players without giving it much thought. We've jizzed millions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Huddersfield, Cardiff and the porkers have shown that a club doesn't always have to spend crazy money in this league. Organisation and a good manager can take you a long way it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, sweetsheri said: HE'S jizzed millions. Fixed it for you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, sweetsheri said: But we didn't go for it did we? We all knew what we needed and it wasn't addressed. We bought ageing, expensive players without giving it much thought. We've jizzed millions. They went for it by buying 'ageing expensive players'. Very few on OT disagreed with the signings at the time. Hindsight is the keyword remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Watson said: Hindsight is the keyword remember. Hindsight means nothing to anyone if they can't remember... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, owls-swfc said: Hindsight means nothing to anyone if they can't remember... Can't argue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offalyowl Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) Yeah but we also have to remember that our academy want great at that time so we had to buy players instead of promoting youth like jos is doing now Edited October 8, 2018 by offalyowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Just now, offalyowl said: Yeah but we also have to remember that our academy want great at that time so we had to buy players instead of promoting youth like Jo's is doing now Agreed. But with £350k spent on Pelupessy and two loan signings that probably don't involve combined loan fees of more than £500k, Jos has spent £1m on three players that have improved our matchday squad streets ahead of even Carlos' last six signings. We've got a bloke in charge who knows how to get Championship-quality players on cheap, something we stopped doing after CC's first season. It's hard not to lament all that wasted cash when you see the pragmatic transfer policy pay off for us, much as it did for clubs like Huddersfield and Cardiff. Maybe Jos can get similar achievements with similar levels of resources, but just imagine what sort of gems he could pick up if he'd had even half of what Carlos had... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Perhaps some credit needs to go to dc and the club for addressing the academy. These seem to be the best kids we’ve developed for a long long time. And not just one but a whole batch of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I’m sure the biggest thing dc regrets is spending big on utter dross yesn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 57 minutes ago, Watson said: Yep if CC reign had been in reverse order it would have been reasonable to believe he would still be here. Very much as you say a victim of his own success. I dont know if you are on a wind up, as normally your post are quite sensible, and on the whole I agree with, but this one made me chuckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Just now, daleblue said: I dont know if you are on a wind up, as normally your post are quite sensible, and on the whole I agree with, but this one made me chuckle. Was kinda wondering about the success bit myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Just now, james o connor said: Was kinda wondering about the success bit myself It pointless discussing CC with you as you aren't prepared to give him any credit what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, daleblue said: I dont know if you are on a wind up, as normally your post are quite sensible, and on the whole I agree with, but this one made me chuckle. Not on the wind up at all. If he finished mid-table in his first season then the fans would have been more prepared to give a further season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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