S36 OWL Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: "Carlos Carvalhal has left, the new manager who’s come in [Luhukay] is in the same situation," said the former Wednesday midfielder. "He can’t move players out, he can’t move players in" "He doesn’t have the say of which player comes in and which players go out. It becomes a major problem" "When a chairman comes to you and says well you can choose from one of these players, even though he’s giving you the input, those players might not be what you want. You might want to shift a load of players out. "For me, Sheffield Wednesday need a massive clear-out. They’ve got no legs, they’ve got no strength, they’ve got no desire in abundance in the team. I think Carlos wanted to do that, he wasn’t allowed to do that. But, he signed his contract under those terms and he ended up leaving." thanks for what 'YOU THINK' carlton, 'I THINK' i ought to win on the lottery, but it doesn't happen. looks like we'll both be better sticking to facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 In order to have a massive clear out you have to have sides who want to take on the players you want to offload. Somehow I doubt there was a long line of clubs wanting to take on the contracts of Almen Abdi, Dave Jones and Marco Matias in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHero Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: "Carlos Carvalhal has left, the new manager who’s come in [Luhukay] is in the same situation," said the former Wednesday midfielder. "He can’t move players out, he can’t move players in" "He doesn’t have the say of which player comes in and which players go out. It becomes a major problem" "When a chairman comes to you and says well you can choose from one of these players, even though he’s giving you the input, those players might not be what you want. You might want to shift a load of players out. "For me, Sheffield Wednesday need a massive clear-out. They’ve got no legs, they’ve got no strength, they’ve got no desire in abundance in the team. I think Carlos wanted to do that, he wasn’t allowed to do that. But, he signed his contract under those terms and he ended up leaving." Ultimately Carlos had been part of the team which brought players with no desire, legs or strength into the team. Let's not feel too sorry for the guy not being able to get rid of players he's brought to the club in the previous 18 months of signing his final contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Of course Dc has the final say over which player comes into the club. Its HIS money FFS. Obviously the Manager will identify the position he wants strengthening, and probably which player/s he wants to buy., but there is a limit to which player he buys. This consists of a) the price b) the amount thhe player wants c) whether the playeris willing to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, S36 OWL said: We DO need a massive clear out , Carlton is right. When the owner is interfering in team affairs it only ends one way . the owner should have some input, it's his money, but the choice should be from a 'footballing' man, in the case of us having no manager, it was likely to be the head coach. the whole situation looks wrong, IF he was picking from a choice of (let's say) 4 players, who was the governing body supplying those names?, shall we have a guess at that? this lot appears to have been wrong from the start as more emerges, it needs a footballing man, a british one, not another from abroad whose been out of work for 2 years, they ain't gonna risk rocking the boat, and the boat's sinking at present. if we don't turn around, and start building a squad from our present one, with the intent of playing fast, strong, pressing, closing down, attacking british championship football, then the 'jig is up'. get a proven british manager in, say no to the 'supplied list' of players, and get in what we need, not what were offered, keep those good enough and those we have to, sell or get shut of the rest, and get quality loans in to bulk the squad out (fulham style), and move on from there, it shouldn't cost the fortune that's been spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, S36 OWL said: Both of which Carlton brought to the team ,and what we have been crying out for since the play off final Been crying out for a player like Carlton ever since he left Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOTIE AND THE SHIT TU Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Morepork said: It almost feels like we are so tainted that a completely fresh start is the only way forward. I suspect we'll see some movement but not as much as some would like. For me, there's a couple I'd keep but I'm of the view that I won't be shedding a tear over any departure, no matter who it is. This^^^^^^^^^^100% When I was younger I used to dread good players leaving Then I learn't, I don't support the players, I support the shirt Unless the player is one of our own The pending Hirst move will hurt, but no player is bigger than the club Just a bloke, who used up all his luck in one go when he met his wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 He's not saying anything particularly new or controversial here, though? The manager/head coach hasn't been running transfer strategy. No one supposes otherwise - or actually that at this level for that to be happen would be realistic. The issue is the quality of advice and ultimate decision making by those who are involved; and some real questions of accountability and conflicts of interests. But again: that's pretty clear, and well known Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I wonder if Carlton wrote the contracts and then proof read them before the managers signed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, DuttyTeabags said: I think we all knew this though. Would CC have spaffed 10m on a slow, weak unskillful striker? Nah i didn't see many up in arms when he was brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Suzuki_San said: What does he mean when he says ‘Luhukay can’t move players out’? We’ve had one transfer window where everyone was poxy injured and nobody would’ve bought any of our crocks anyway! And why would we want to sell fit players, when we’re trying to stay in the league? Old pinhead has been smoking too much mara...marijh...has been on the lager, I think. i think IF carlton knows something about jos not being able to 'move players out' then he should spill the beans, not keep it to himself, it will be better out in the open, or shall i tell you all i know about the electromagnetic pulse drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackSWFC Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Poor Liam. Imagine rocking up to the match today knowing your dads just publicly called all your teammates a pile of poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, theowlsman said: I’ll be having a massive clear out at half time. If anyone is interested. Hopefully your lucky halftime dump won't be needed today. However I'm sure it will so fill up with plenty of fibre at lunchtime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, blakey1959 said: Of course Carlton knows all this Got it from Liam, his lovechild from his encounter with Paul Warhurst’s wife. Known at S6 as the swinging years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, gurujuan said: I think it’s what anybody would deduce, Very few of the signings seemed like Carlos signings, especially latterly how would you deduce what was a 'carlos signing'? the bloke spoke double dutch gobbledygook half the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Same old responses from those who refuse to believe anything is wrong Clapping all the way to the 3rd division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Carlton palmer is a nob always pops up with something negative .i couldnt give a monkeys what he says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: Same old responses from those who refuse to believe anything is wrong Clapping all the way to the 3rd division Ha ha clapping thst must be the worst phrase in football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, keefdave said: OH YES! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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