WalthamOwl Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 58 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: We'll have a new manager by next season regardless I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 I hope he does panic. I don’t think he will do though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 No, he'll go on telling his mates across the water that all is good at s6 and we're on the promotion trail next season. Meanwhile....... back in S6.... the slide continues. I think the blokes been taken for a ride by everyone that saw grabbing a quick penny from a naïve Chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mighty wednesday Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, gurujuan said: I think he did, Jos was the wrong person to appoint mid season With a whole summer to prepare, maybe As for Carlos and the Swansea thing, to get him they’d have had to pay some hefty compensation, had we have stood our ground Results were better under Carlos, despite the players being supposedly fitter now The other thing is, Carlos was capable of producing a run of wins out of a bad run of form, as he did last season Can’t see Jos doing that, even with the returning players Hutchinson, Hooper and van Aken played in CC's last game. How many times has Jos had them available? Wallace also played but is out for the season now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Knowing DC we will survive by the very skin of our teeth, DC will think Jos has done a great job and give him a 4 year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, the mighty wednesday said: Hutchinson, Hooper and van Aken played in CC's last game. How many times has Jos had them available? Wallace also played but is out for the season now. I would only look at Hooper making any sort of contribution out of that lot, but I take your point Jos has had it all to do, no doubt about that, that’s why he was the wrong appointment, or possibly, the right appointment, at the wrong time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mighty wednesday Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: I would only look at Hooper making any sort of contribution out of that lot, but I take your point Jos has had it all to do, no doubt about that, that’s why he was the wrong appointment, or possibly, the right appointment, at the wrong time I'm not particularly trying to defend Jos as some of his team selections have been puzzling but he has been up against it from day one and with every bit of rumour/innuendo that emerges it seems his burden becomes worse, but I really think things would have been no better under CC. You have to remember that arguably our most influential player Bannan had only been missing for CC's last 2 games and the writing was on the wall before then. All we can hope for this season is to scrape enough points to survive. I know I gave you some encouragement after the Villa game but I'm now getting more worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 hour ago, gurujuan said: Yep I said this at the time. Should have waited until end of season. A temp manager is not a motivating factor for the players, when things are not going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Big Jack said: I said this at the time. Should have waited until end of season. A temp manager is not a motivating factor for the players, when things are not going well. When the players know that a manager is about to leave they almost always seem to relax a bit. It even happened at Manchester United when Alex Ferguson temporarily retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Big Jack said: I said this at the time. Should have waited until end of season. A temp manager is not a motivating factor for the players, when things are not going well. Only issue with that is that Swansea fired their manager and Carlos had been to three interviews for the job previously Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Big Jack said: Should have stuck with the one we had already and then changed at end of season. We left of his own accord he wasn't sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Carlos needed hounding out, his time had come and he had lost the plot. Luhukay has been given a sh@t sandwich to chew on but he was expected to deal with it better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 If Jos really is only here until the end of the year its yet another poor decision by the club. Surely the first thing you look for in a temporary manager is experience of the league you are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Whatever happens this season I don’t want Jos in charge next season. He hasn’t shown anything to convince me he is the man to take us forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest timrud Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 JL would only be here next year if he won 19 of the 23 games he had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tollertonowl Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Let's be fair and that is that Carlo should have left at the end of last season and another manager given a chance,,,, In terms of Carlo I think that he and whoever recruited players took a chance on them and that when it didn't pay off has resulted in the problems we are experiencing.... And if you look at Carlo's CV its pretty clear hes a short term boost only..... Personally I didn't like Carlo and the great football that we watched from him early on was because he just let the players get on with it rather than be tactical.... Also Stu Grey had built a solid team on a shoe string and a few key players made a massive difference... Then when he thought it looked good that first season he started trying his tactics, which was (for me) the start of our fall from grace... At Swansea he is only doing what Clement did last year and I wouldn't get carried away.... Then the final nail was employing big money (has been) players to push us over the line...... That for me ruined the dressing room, as if I was at work and somebody who was a has been crock earning 1000% more than me and then produced nothing - I'd be pissed.... I thought like any sane person an English experienced manager would be appointed to get us through to the end of the season... And then if Jos was an option he'd be brought in then to have time to review the league/ team etc.... I like his view in terms of youth, but we are 3 wins away from that and to be fair he hasn't got a first team to get us there at the moment... In terms of going down I don't think it will happen but lets make sure and then play about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: Carlos needed hounding out, his time had come and he had lost the plot. Luhukay has been given a sh@t sandwich to chew on but he was expected to deal with it better than this. Bang on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeback owl Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 We not only need another manager quickly , we need another owner !!. One that has a clue about putting around them people that know what they are doing if they don't know themselves . Yes he's put money in ... So do most people that buy football clubs , but he's managed to get a hell of a lot of stuff wrong IMO From shirts to exec boxes he's not been brilliant has he ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Animis said: It's starting to look that way and this is a problem as he's passionless and motionless on the touch line, which i can only assume reflects his personality and what happens in training/dressing room. We need someone to shake the players up - we have massive games coming up and we are going to have to fight. Someone with passion for the club and ginger hair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Big Jack said: DC should have got rid of CC at end of season, so as DC chose to keep him on , I firmly believe he should have kept CC on until the end of season. I think DC already did panic and we are currently worse off than before. The club is in freefall and at the moment cant see anything but relegation. Its depressing in the extreme. Carlos didn't get the sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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