Tollertonowl

Well it isn't working for the clubs that are promoted without also having a big investor to put further money into the clubs... The result for those without this is a maximum of 1yr in the PL before relegation..... Then a spiral from EFL rules actually being imposed and so most likely further relegation as a result...

Unfortunately falling fowl of the EFL rules unless you gain promotion to the PL are designed to spiral clubs into further breaches and financial ruin...

It might also be worthwhile considering that other than Shaw/ Pickford (goal) that the entire England defence, which is yet to concede a goal is from south Yorkshire and then looking through the entire squad pretty much nobody is from Manchester/ Liverpool - yet domestically these are the super clubs...

However the voting club in the EFL given that parachute payments is a PL has a majority of 2 bit owners of small clubs, as an ego trip for themselves with no intention of challenging for the PL so I don't see things changing soon for the likes of us, forest, Derby and Middlesbrough...

Their situation is pretty much the same as ourselves whereby a previously successful club is unable to succeed due to EFL FFP rules restricting spending t o the clubs turnover... Then in comparison some called Elite clubs like Man City/ Chelsea are only successful through the allowance of unlimited spending by their owners...

I think that an owner like in the PL should be able to invest as much money as he wants rather than being tied to the clubs reduced EFL turnover... They only issue is ensuring that businesses are protected and that the money is available... I think that this would be better than trade embargoes and the clubs assets such as the stadium being sold to them at extortionate prices to Work around the rules... The other issue with FFP is that it spirals clubs that take a risk into a consolidated hardship of being unable to sell players and recoup their signing on fees along with the clubs being unable to replace them...

As we are now tied to rules - maybe not paying wages on time is to push back costs to the following tax year?!?

Why don't the EFL FFP rules just allow monies to be invested into football clubs at the risk of the investors rather than basing the rules on turnover?1? For example if someone buys a football club and then wants to £millions in the purchase of players then the EFL should just ensure that this money isn't borrowed against the club and putting it at risk... As all this turnover crap is just making football unaffordable due to inflated ticket prices and consolidating the difficulties of those clubs like us who failed to gamble on promotion to the point of non existence... Then those clubs who gamble and succeed like Leicester, Villa and Wolves are fined mediocre amounts if the gamble pays off... Plus the parachute payments for those demoted is hardly fair to other EFL clubs... It's just a joke and destroying football, as it's made the prices ridiculous, stopping clubs success and also consolidating their financial positions e.g. you are under embargo so can't sell players because you can't replace them and then they leave for free - so rather than recouping money from selling a player you lose more money and subsequently suffer further penalties...

I’d be ok with him going for anything £1M + as for me he doesn’t have the intelligence required, as a footballer IMO... Knobber got his self sent off under TP against PNE with an absolutely stupid challenge, which cost us the game and gave them their first win...

I also think that League 1 is going to be his stage...

The problem is that we haven’t hit rock bottom yet... So can’t entice the older generation PL with a last pay day or the younger prospects, as a team with ambition... In terms of DM I think he’s gonna have his work cut out and I do hope that he is given the time needed to turn the team around, which if he is will most likely result in a long period of pain in terms of results before we see any benefit....

The football league is based on turnover and SWFC/ Blades combined would generate a regular home crowd in excess of 40K.... Then if in the PL and playing big clubs that would break 50K most games including away supporters so it would be a team that could compete... Alternatively we can both look forward to 20Kish crowds (no away fans) in the football league along with some very mediocre players, officials etc... So personally I'd rather take my son to watch games with world class players rather than pub footballers...

we then went onto spend ridiculous amounts on players who never played for us in the late 90's like donnelly, o'connell etc... I remember my dad saying back then his mate was a celtic fan (into scottish football) and they were sick notes so couldn't work it out... Also booth wasn't a Wednesday player either as he was literally a 1950's old school centre forward/ target man.... IMO we should've let TF have time to change the team rather than spend ridiculous amounts on crappy players who were obviously not up to standard or unlikely to play more than a few games, as they were know to be injured... Instead we just continually turned over players/ managers until we were eventually demoted with Di Canio being the biggest loss when he went to West Ham for 1/3 of the price we paid so our MD could get the Director of PL job for himself, which isn't what Man Utd would've done.... Further to that most clubs in the same situation just entered administration like West Ham etc.... However we just ploughed on paying the debt for another circa 15yrs and then did exactly the same again in 5-6yrs.... Sacked a good manager who had procured our back bone of a team for peanuts, put in some good players he could've with money, played well until our crappy new manager took over, took a risk for promotion, bottled it and then spiralled into the abyss through not being able to sell players/ replace....

We've never been smart when it comes to money... Didn't Howard Wilkinson leave because the board wouldn't sanction Mark Wright (liverpool/ England) and then he went to Leeds and won the last 1st division after signing Cantona on prolonged trial with us - SWFC 3rd placed that year.... Who he then sold to Man Utd who then won the league after more than 25yrs drought every year he played albeit the year he kung foo kicked a crystal palace fan and blackburn won on the last day with infinite spending....

David Hirst says that he regrets not moving to Man Utd, but also says that back then it was no different from playing for us... However he didn't realise that the 1st division would become the premiership and Jack Walker would drive up players wages taking over Blackburn... Also Man City, Everton, Chelsea were nothing clubs and teams like Oldham/ Wimbledon were up there... Now the PL is a closed shop due to cash and the difference in standard..