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Tollertonowl

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  1. Well it isn't working for the clubs that are promoted without also having a big investor to put further money into the clubs... The result for those without this is a maximum of 1yr in the PL before relegation..... Then a spiral from EFL rules actually being imposed and so most likely further relegation as a result...
  2. Unfortunately falling fowl of the EFL rules unless you gain promotion to the PL are designed to spiral clubs into further breaches and financial ruin...
  3. It might also be worthwhile considering that other than Shaw/ Pickford (goal) that the entire England defence, which is yet to concede a goal is from south Yorkshire and then looking through the entire squad pretty much nobody is from Manchester/ Liverpool - yet domestically these are the super clubs...
  4. However the voting club in the EFL given that parachute payments is a PL has a majority of 2 bit owners of small clubs, as an ego trip for themselves with no intention of challenging for the PL so I don't see things changing soon for the likes of us, forest, Derby and Middlesbrough...
  5. Their situation is pretty much the same as ourselves whereby a previously successful club is unable to succeed due to EFL FFP rules restricting spending t o the clubs turnover... Then in comparison some called Elite clubs like Man City/ Chelsea are only successful through the allowance of unlimited spending by their owners...
  6. I think that an owner like in the PL should be able to invest as much money as he wants rather than being tied to the clubs reduced EFL turnover... They only issue is ensuring that businesses are protected and that the money is available... I think that this would be better than trade embargoes and the clubs assets such as the stadium being sold to them at extortionate prices to Work around the rules... The other issue with FFP is that it spirals clubs that take a risk into a consolidated hardship of being unable to sell players and recoup their signing on fees along with the clubs being unable to replace them...
  7. As we are now tied to rules - maybe not paying wages on time is to push back costs to the following tax year?!?
  8. Why don't the EFL FFP rules just allow monies to be invested into football clubs at the risk of the investors rather than basing the rules on turnover?1? For example if someone buys a football club and then wants to £millions in the purchase of players then the EFL should just ensure that this money isn't borrowed against the club and putting it at risk... As all this turnover crap is just making football unaffordable due to inflated ticket prices and consolidating the difficulties of those clubs like us who failed to gamble on promotion to the point of non existence... Then those clubs who gamble and succeed like Leicester, Villa and Wolves are fined mediocre amounts if the gamble pays off... Plus the parachute payments for those demoted is hardly fair to other EFL clubs... It's just a joke and destroying football, as it's made the prices ridiculous, stopping clubs success and also consolidating their financial positions e.g. you are under embargo so can't sell players because you can't replace them and then they leave for free - so rather than recouping money from selling a player you lose more money and subsequently suffer further penalties...
  9. I’d be ok with him going for anything £1M + as for me he doesn’t have the intelligence required, as a footballer IMO... Knobber got his self sent off under TP against PNE with an absolutely stupid challenge, which cost us the game and gave them their first win...
  10. I also think that League 1 is going to be his stage...
  11. The problem is that we haven’t hit rock bottom yet... So can’t entice the older generation PL with a last pay day or the younger prospects, as a team with ambition... In terms of DM I think he’s gonna have his work cut out and I do hope that he is given the time needed to turn the team around, which if he is will most likely result in a long period of pain in terms of results before we see any benefit....
  12. The football league is based on turnover and SWFC/ Blades combined would generate a regular home crowd in excess of 40K.... Then if in the PL and playing big clubs that would break 50K most games including away supporters so it would be a team that could compete... Alternatively we can both look forward to 20Kish crowds (no away fans) in the football league along with some very mediocre players, officials etc... So personally I'd rather take my son to watch games with world class players rather than pub footballers...
  13. we then went onto spend ridiculous amounts on players who never played for us in the late 90's like donnelly, o'connell etc... I remember my dad saying back then his mate was a celtic fan (into scottish football) and they were sick notes so couldn't work it out... Also booth wasn't a Wednesday player either as he was literally a 1950's old school centre forward/ target man.... IMO we should've let TF have time to change the team rather than spend ridiculous amounts on crappy players who were obviously not up to standard or unlikely to play more than a few games, as they were know to be injured... Instead we just continually turned over players/ managers until we were eventually demoted with Di Canio being the biggest loss when he went to West Ham for 1/3 of the price we paid so our MD could get the Director of PL job for himself, which isn't what Man Utd would've done.... Further to that most clubs in the same situation just entered administration like West Ham etc.... However we just ploughed on paying the debt for another circa 15yrs and then did exactly the same again in 5-6yrs.... Sacked a good manager who had procured our back bone of a team for peanuts, put in some good players he could've with money, played well until our crappy new manager took over, took a risk for promotion, bottled it and then spiralled into the abyss through not being able to sell players/ replace....
  14. We've never been smart when it comes to money... Didn't Howard Wilkinson leave because the board wouldn't sanction Mark Wright (liverpool/ England) and then he went to Leeds and won the last 1st division after signing Cantona on prolonged trial with us - SWFC 3rd placed that year.... Who he then sold to Man Utd who then won the league after more than 25yrs drought every year he played albeit the year he kung foo kicked a crystal palace fan and blackburn won on the last day with infinite spending....
  15. David Hirst says that he regrets not moving to Man Utd, but also says that back then it was no different from playing for us... However he didn't realise that the 1st division would become the premiership and Jack Walker would drive up players wages taking over Blackburn... Also Man City, Everton, Chelsea were nothing clubs and teams like Oldham/ Wimbledon were up there... Now the PL is a closed shop due to cash and the difference in standard..
  16. Historically we would've bounced back to the top in the last 25yrs, but football has changed as it's all about money, which has resulted in the demise of pretty much every Yorkshire team as it's a bottomless pit... So for me it's looking like Leeds are going to be the only viable option for any Yorkshire Team to challenge for the premiership, europe and domestic cups..
  17. We hit that over 20yrs ago from a season ticket holder since 93/94... It's also not what I want, but I've 4 kids (3 boys) and aside from a brief spell of good football, which they were slightly to young to appreciate it's pretty tough to sell watching Wednesday, inflict it on them and travel from York...
  18. I know that this is going to a contentious subject, but we have Barnsley, SUFC, Chesterfield and Rotherham all within walking distance of Hillsborough and traditionally this didn't matter, but in todays climate in terms of the prices to watch games etc. the only result I can see from all this is lower league football for us all forever...
  19. I’m not sure that your comment that football has never been so popular is correct, as historically when football teams employed local players for a pittance (so they had other jobs aswell) and the crowds dwarfed those now, as tickets were affordable the crowds were larger for all teams e.g. we had the largest average attendance at Hillsborough in the 1950’s...
  20. A game that was previously played by teams with local players with a passion/ love (short career/ small wages) and also enjoyed as value/cheap family entertainment by the Working Classes on a weekend for well over 100yrs has (since the 90's) been increasingly turned into a corporate Money making machine... The main changes to football were in the early to late 90's, which I think were the catalyst to our current situation such as the introduction of the premier league, Sky TV buying the rights to televise games, Jack Walker spending hand over fist to buy the Premier League title for Blackburn along with extreme fee's/ wages for players and then concurrently the Bosman ruling, which has resulted in clubs losing out on transfer fee's from players/ football agents fees increased/ players cashing in on signing on fee's and wage demands . Maybe the Bosman ruling is the main cause of hyper inflation of players wages/ costs to clubs/ increased costs to supporters... Anyway the result from this and possibly other factors I've failed to mention accelerated a lot of established football clubs to enter administration within a few years, which statistically less than 15 clubs had before 1995 and after the ruling over 50 clubs have so far entered administration, which are predominantly lower league clubs who have been unable to cash in on key players (transfer fee) accordingly. IMO players should have the right to move clubs if they have the opportunity to move/ progress to higher divisions. However I also think that signing on fee's should be abolished and governing bodies like UEFA/ FA/ PL etc. should limit squad numbers and also stipulate squad players of PL clubs to ensure that the cash rich clubs like Liverpool, Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea etc. don't buy up and coming players to then sit in their reserves/ U 23's and then just rot... They should also ensure that players past clubs (lower league if limited squad numbers) are compensated after the players contract expires by the next club accordingly, as these clubs have sourced/ developed them as players and were previously (as small clubs) reliant on transfer fees to reinvest in the club/ development of other players... In terms of compensation to other (past) clubs I would expect that a player like J Vardy for example at Leicester who are a PL team and therefore paid circa £140M based on their position... So maybe Leicester retain 90% of this value and the other £14M (10%) is distributed pro rata to all of their players previous clubs that he/they(others) played in football league games below the first division (PL or equivalent). Further to this the FA needs to align with the PL on FFP rules as other than Man Utd, Liverpool and maybe Arsenal none of the other (now so called) successful big clubs like Chelsea & Man City aren't big clubs without extreme investment by their foreign owners... Then relegated teams from the PL have parachute payments yet long term championship teams following a PL model now have consolidated penalties/ embargoes etc... That snowball the issues...BTW i've had a drink....
  21. We haven't had any players for at least about 3 years +....
  22. No worries I couldn't even be bothered to Reach/Bannan it myself after writing it....
  23. And maybe 'Far from Heaven' based solely on the film title....
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