Dick_Turpin Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 How can he get match fit without playing proper matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I thought with all this extra money we have and squad depth we would no longer be having to have players we managed with injuries like Hutch we took a player we would not had got had he been properly fit. But I look at the squad now and with money we are managing lees hip, fessi knee, abdis knee, loovens whole body, pudils legs, Wallace's leg etc is it maybe time we dumped the crocks and brought in some fit players or let players properly recover before rushing them back. As we all know Fessi will be rushed back pre Xmas and end up being out again later in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fife_owl Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 2 hours ago, oldishowl said: He is not fit but playing him on the right hand side is total nonsense. It completely takes away the things he brings to the team. Forward runs, covering ground, anticipating and getting a foot in in midfield all gone Thinking Lee can play on the right is one of the things that really make me wonder what Carlos is looking at Lee is a conundrum. It’s supposed to be two players per position. That would mean in a 442 he’s competing with Bannan for a spot. But they both get shoe-horned in. The squad has real balance issues; players need to be moved out in January. I suspect Abdi will move out on loan. He won’t leave as Chansiri won’t take the hit on the transfer fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlkestonOwl Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 3 hours ago, DuttyTeabags said: Why oh why won't we give Matias a shot on RW? He's too quick mate.nobody can keep up with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 The other issue is no Lee in the middle making forward runs completely negates Hooper dropping deep because nobody runs past him into the space The centre halfs can do what they want, push on Hooper and make him go deeper and deeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 minute ago, oldishowl said: The other issue is no Lee in the middle making forward runs completely negates Hooper dropping deep because nobody runs past him into the space The centre halfs can do what they want, push on Hooper and make him go deeper and deeper Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last_Great_Hope Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 hour ago, rickygoo said: How can he get match fit without playing proper matches? A point that quite a few in this thread do not seem to grasp... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Last_Great_Hope said: A point that quite a few in this thread do not seem to grasp... Or perhaps people are not convinced that he's "fit" as in he is still nursing an injury of some sort. Edited November 26, 2017 by SiJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last_Great_Hope Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 still Injured / Match fit not the same thing. There are some saying he is won't be match fit / up to speed for a few more games, so drop him. Can't get "up to speed" without playing competitive games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Last_Great_Hope said: still Injured / Match fit not the same thing. There are some saying he is won't be match fit / up to speed for a few more games, so drop him. Can't get "up to speed" without playing competitive games. Carlos has more or less said he isn't match fit..one week 100% the next..he isn't...Now thats fair enough if its simply a matter of fitness...If its a matter of his hip injury..Its f.ookin' reckless... Theres a difference between your mates on the training pitch, knowing full well you have had a hip injury tackling you...and a match situation with a competitor that doesn't know you from Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 4 hours ago, oldishowl said: He is not fit but playing him on the right hand side is total nonsense. It completely takes away the things he brings to the team. Forward runs, covering ground, anticipating and getting a foot in in midfield all gone Thinking Lee can play on the right is one of the things that really make me wonder what Carlos is looking at Exactly this. Another case of CC accomodating players. Same as when he plays Bannan on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 26/11/2017 at 12:47, Sergeant Tibbs said: Is Abdi available ? Which is something absolutely weeing me off... Why do we get no injury uodates? Abdi Boyd Hutch Fessi Matias Keep the fans in the loop; instead of rumours being allowed to fester... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 26/11/2017 at 11:50, SiJ said: I'm quite worried about him (Lee that is, given up on Carlos ) If his hip is still causing him problems, then it may be very difficult for him to get anywhere near his top level of performance. Having a hip injury isn't good for anyone, but particularly a player who relies on his ability to twist and turn. When he came on against Ipswich he looked knackered and off the pace. That's pretty worrying. He was rushed back too quickly last season. No doubt about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ka58 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 What’s everyone on about - we were a different team when he came on against Ipswich 2 games ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 26/11/2017 at 12:41, Shetland Owl said: He will take at least 5 games to get back to match fitness. Matias should start on the wing with Abdi in the centre Couldn’t agree more ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 26/11/2017 at 15:35, Last_Great_Hope said: A point that quite a few in this thread do not seem to grasp... U23’s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 26/11/2017 at 16:27, archieswfc said: Exactly this. Another case of CC accomodating players. Same as when he plays Bannan on the left. Bannan in an attacking midfield role or not at all ! Lee in CM or not at all ! Pudil at LB or not at all ! its not hard is it ?! Cc managed to make it tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Trouble is the right hand side is a problem. Wallace is very inconsistent and away from home where you have to defend more he is not up to that part of the job Matias , who knows , but even Palmer in front of Hunt would be better than playing Lee there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkowl Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, N0rtherner said: Which is something absolutely weeing me off... Why do we get no injury uodates? Abdi Boyd Hutch Fessi Matias Keep the fans in the loop; instead of rumours being allowed to fester... There are some updates. Boyds had 2 ops won't be back for a while. Fessi is out till at least January minimum. Matias played today for the under 23s. That's 3 of the 5 players you mentioned without me trying to find anything out. Just from club statements I remembered. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkenyonqfc2 Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 as I know the lad here's my take on it. he is still struggling with the hip thing, he gets flare ups of pain so bad they wake him at night and can't sit comfortable when he came back v NF he was feeling good and by the time of the Leeds game was feeling fitter too, the international came at a bad time after the international the pain was back and he was sent to be injected (again) which is what worries me Kieran has been back to the surgeon and re-scanned and surgeon can't see anything wrong says it looks to have healed well so he has some sort of injury that nobody knows what to do with and therefore are doing nothing, added to that he says CC no longer wants attacking midfielders and when he has played he's told to stay back more, so as you would expect he's a little down at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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