BIG D Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 It must be when it’s David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 I was thinking about Grandad tbf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Surely we all know the club can do no wrong. Why are we even doubting them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 This thread is like something straight outta the Wednesdayite section, all wee wee tail measuring and i know more than you crap, we are all supposed to be friends FFS ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Well if people would state facts then we could make our own minds up. All this I know but can’t say owt b0llox doesn’t do anyone any good. You’ve already let them down by announcing they’ve told you anyway so what’s to lose for anyone? Especially Kivo unless he’s best mates with David as well? I have to say that at all the Hirstys Bar events I went to David Hirst never came over as someone who would bulls hit about anything atall. Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) Some people just cant help themselves it seems Edited September 27, 2017 by steveger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reallondonowl Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, 33 said: What is the point of all the speculation? Lad wants to be treated fairly and doesn't feel this is the case. Neither do his representatives. What would you tell your lad, seriously; if he was doing a good job at work and got offered less than you thought he was worth. Even if you take into account that you'd probably accept a bit less because he likes it there and are happy for him to prove himself over time and reap the benefits then? What if taking that into account you still thought his employer was undervaluing him? What would you advise? Some of us may be happy with this and some may not, but to discredit him and someone else who both love this club is beyond the pail. Some f00kers on here need to give their heads a wobble. Just make sure that it doesn't rattle too much. Nailed it. Differing views on playing him is one thing. Having a go and dishing out dog’s abuse is not Wednesday. Not what we are about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Reallondonowl said: Nailed it. Differing views on playing him is one thing. Having a go and dishing out dog’s abuse is not Wednesday. Not what we are about. They'll be calling them bedwetters next. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, Reallondonowl said: Nailed it. Differing views on playing him is one thing. Having a go and dishing out dog’s abuse is not Wednesday. Not what we are about. Perhaps he shouldn’t be a di ck on Twitter then? Then people perhaps wouldn’t get wound up so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 4 hours ago, fred mciver said: OK , let's try some speculative Maths. We know Chelsea's - therefore the World's - top young guns are on £30 k per week. We know 2nd tier clubs such as Everon and Leicester are interested so we've gotta assume that they'd offer around £20 k per week. And their reported top valuation was £2 million. So, using this £20 k as a base, that would mean a 4 year contract for Hirsty now puts us at risk for some £4 million. Less his current valuation, means a £ 2 million total liability. To me, this seems manageable when Celtic can sign him for free in 3 months. Especially when compared to the upside of a top striker one day who can shoot us to glory, while increasing his value massively. Am struggling to see the problem here, except maybe a clash of egos, as Hirsty may face career death in Scotland and couldn't hack abroad. I can absolutely guarantee they wont be offering George Hirst in excess of £20,000 a week. Yes England's top U21s are on £30k allegedly, but they're also out on loan at the likes of Watford in the Premiership. Hirst wasn't even in the first England squad for U20s, hence why he was at Toulon! He's also never made a senior start. Holgate and Browning at Everton arent even on half of what you're claiming Hirst might get offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee81 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 50 minutes ago, Sonny said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reallondonowl Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 31 minutes ago, BIG D said: Perhaps he shouldn’t be a di ck on Twitter then? Then people perhaps wouldn’t get wound up so much. We were being di.cks on here well before twitter started 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 (edited) MIxed feelings on this. Get the impression that our contract offer is derisory, but relative to what? His U18/23 team mates here at the club seem OK with their offers. Is he comparing himself to the youngsters of the Premier League he's played alongside? They're playing at a higher level than him in terms of their Club's finances and possible Academy status. The Toulon was a kind of England Youth B side. Not taking away from Hirst's achievements but he didn't make the Squad for the England U19. U20 or U21s who were all playing in bigger tournaments. The group he was with were a mixture of age groups. Some will earn more than others, some further ahead in their development too. It's been said, Brooks (for example) is 2 years older. So IF Hirst is holding out for a contract that's up there with players ahead of him, IMO he's been poorly advised. But not knowing the offer and how it compares to players that are around his level/age group, it's hard to say. We make some strange decisions off the pitch these days, so it's not hard to be skeptical about the Club's handling of this. Edited September 27, 2017 by Donny.Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Finlux_Cup said: Ask Grandad, he knows all the ins and outs, he has it at first hand from George, his Dad, DC, CC and Doyen, he knows it all. He'll probably come on and say summat Reight cutting about you being drunk or question your mental state though!! Bless ya. Bit of green eyed monster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watto Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Mcgugan frozen out Hirst frozen out Forestieri refusing to play Training ground bust up Winnall sent out on loan Rhodes on the bench ( after a cost of 8-10M) No kit entering 3rd month of season Losing 4-2 at home to your bitter rivals All is not well at S6 I'm afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 No mate, you crack on. If jumping to conclusions, then using said conclusions to not only vilify one of the best prospects to come out of our Academy in years is your thing, and while youre at it, his Dad who over the years has done nothing but good for our club - nothing that I say will make you change your mind. You and the other numpties on here will carry on because its what you do - you're trolls, you don't like to believe that there is anybody out there that knows more than you do. It would be funny if it wasnt so tragic. I genuinely feel for you, and the others like you. Now where were we? Oh yeah - feckin Hirsty, wha a tw@/. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watto Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Medical team sacked and the same players getting injured! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watto Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Grandad said: No mate, you crack on. If jumping to conclusions, then using said conclusions to not only vilify one of the best prospects to come out of our Academy in years is your thing, and while youre at it, his Dad who over the years has done nothing but good for our club - nothing that I say will make you change your mind. You and the other numpties on here will carry on because its what you do - you're trolls, you don't like to believe that there is anybody out there that knows more than you do. It would be funny if it wasnt so tragic. I genuinely feel for you, and the others like you. Now where were we? Oh yeah - feckin Hirsty, wha a tw@/. Not just Hirsty though is it , the club is being run in a shambolic fashion ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Watto said: Not just Hirsty though is it , the club is being run in a shambolic fashion ! Bits of it are - yes. But on the whole we are streets ahead of where we were 10 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 The club will look amazingly well run after a run of wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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