Bluesteel Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 10 hours ago, gurujuan said: I don't know, it depends who our other targets are For me, he's better than Keogh and Morrison, but yes, it is a lot of money You know it isn't my idea of how I want us to play, I'd rather us play a totally different system However, if we want to play 4-4-2, I'd rather us get the players in to do that When Brighton signed Duffy, I was sceptical, but in fact, a big no nonsense defender was just what they needed I agree we need a big no nonsense type, but the likes of Morrison and perhaps Bartley and others fall into that category too. Hanley is no doubt a player who can come in and do well like Lees did after a tough time at Leeds but as soon as someone comes to Newcastle, Villa or to a lesser extent Wednesday their wages become over inflated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 45 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: I agree we need a big no nonsense type, but the likes of Morrison and perhaps Bartley and others fall into that category too. Hanley is no doubt a player who can come in and do well like Lees did after a tough time at Leeds but as soon as someone comes to Newcastle, Villa or to a lesser extent Wednesday their wages become over inflated. Yes,big problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 2 is r nilsson Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Do we really need a big no nonsense defender? We had a great defensive record last year but that was in part because our midfield mostly sat deep and going forwards our midfield were often looking to pick the ball up in out final third. I think this held us back going forwards. A better ball playing centre half would allow us to break faster and distribute to the midfield further up the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 I'm not to sure, if you like look at our last few games lees at the back was basically forced to play a sort of quarter back role. Which for me was one of the main issues for our lack of goals. But largely down to tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest simo Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Both players not good enough, why weren't they regulars in the starting line ups of their present clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B_SWFC Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 50 minutes ago, simo said: Both players not good enough, why weren't they regulars in the starting line ups of their present clubs? Hooper, Fletcher, Forestieri, Reach and Rhodes all weren't starting for their clubs when we signed them. Are they not good enough either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I still think Daniel Ayala would be the best fit for us out of the two. He's more composed, solid and experienced. Plus he was one of the stand out defenders at this level a couple of years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, Milan Missing Marble said: I still think Daniel Ayala would be the best fit for us out of the two. He's more composed, solid and experienced. Plus he was one of the stand out defenders at this level a couple of years ago. True. but he would be the most difficult out of the two to get. Can't imagine Monk is going to let Ayala go to us no more than we would let Westwood go to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: True. but he would be the most difficult out of the two to get. Can't imagine Monk is going to let Ayala go to us no more than we would let Westwood go to them. That's probably true, although whether Ayala does go or not is probably dependent upon Monk being able to bring in his top targets, such as Bartley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Both are wanted by a host of championship clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcx666 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 51 minutes ago, Chris_B_SWFC said: Hooper, Fletcher, Forestieri, Reach and Rhodes all weren't starting for their clubs when we signed them. Are they not good enough either? don't even mention Lees and Westwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Chris_B_SWFC said: Hooper, Fletcher, Forestieri, Reach and Rhodes all weren't starting for their clubs when we signed them. Are they not good enough either? This one isn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 59 minutes ago, Milan Missing Marble said: I still think Daniel Ayala would be the best fit for us out of the two. He's more composed, solid and experienced. Plus he was one of the stand out defenders at this level a couple of years ago. This - Hanley is an absolute clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ramone said: This - Hanley is an absolute clown. From what I have seen of him, I don't rate him either. Hanley and Keogh seem too sloppy to me and wouldn't suit us. Although personally I wouldn't want us to sign Morrison, I think Morrison and Ayala make more sense, due to their leadership quality, experience and heading, and in Ayala's case also solidity and composure. Edited June 25, 2017 by Milan Missing Marble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Milan Missing Marble said: From what I have seen of him, I don't rate him either. Hanley and Keogh seem too sloppy to me and wouldn't suit us. Although personally I wouldn't want us to sign Morrison, I think Morrison and Ayala make more sense, due to their leadership quality and heading, and in Ayala's case also solidity and composure. They're all a bit of a much of a muchness, but Hanley is the only left footer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Prefer Hanley to Keogh if we had to take one but not sure why we would scrape the barrel.For their fees and wages i'd rather we got in a decent lump from Bundesliga 2 like Hefele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, gurujuan said: They're all a bit of a much of a muchness, but Hanley is the only left footer Why do you say much of a muchness, I wouldn't include Ayala in that statement? Because Ayala has got the most pedigree and experience out of those. Don't forget only a couple of seasons ago he was voted Championship player of the season. Personally, I think he's by far the best out of all the linked centre backs. Edited June 25, 2017 by Milan Missing Marble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I mean, I don't think there's much between them They all offer us something we don't have, aerial dominance, and leadership qualities However, there are drawbacks with all of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 On 2017-6-9 at 11:19, gurujuan said: Who was Gibson's partner last season, Ayala hardly started Callum Chambers. If he moves on a permanent deal then we will get Ayala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Thome Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I think Ayala might be unrealistic but I'd like to see us sign a centre back who can play out from the back a bit, so in his mould. Grant Hanley isn't capable of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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