Doghouse Daz Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rogers said: Ideally you need a sport that's played in the close season, unfortunately there isn't one that attract any crowds. Soccer / American Football Cricket / Aussie Rules Football / ? Field hockey That's where the alternative events come into the equation , concerts exhibitions. If that stadium can average 150+ events a year , as opposed to our 23+ , the revenue generated must be phenomenal. As I said , but a pipedream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Davetherave said: Bye, bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Alright I'll admit to watching the odd bit of cricket but if you go on Sky Sports tonight and watch the test match between New Zealand and South Africa the crowd is roughly commensurate with a non league football match over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) 20 20 cricket will burn itself out. In fact I don't see a future for cricket as a professional sport in this country, well not at a regional level anyway Edited March 28, 2017 by gurujuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 A uniform no then! Think it shows that there isnt as much crossover in fanbase as i thought. Lots of incorrect assumptions though as you guys clearly aint bothered about cricket. First t20 blast is absolutely fxxking booming. attendance wise up 18% year on year. Headingley sold out twice last year 16,500. Lancs game sold out 2 months in advance. Tottenham are building a dual purpose stadium right now. Stands roll under the upper tiers. Its for NFL but the principles are the same. Cricket wickets can be dropped in these days for t20. You dont need a square. The new t20 city based will start with 8 yes and leeds will be in there but it will expand. And it will be comparable with ipl and big blast. As a previous poster said. The revenues make the stadium viable. Its all over in 3 hours. And you can drink watching the game. Even SAG cant stop that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomtheOwl95 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 4 hours ago, handworth52 said: never heard owt so daft. bit like saying football grounds should have an athletics track round pitch ,our home is Hillsborough I don't want to anywhere else thanks. This. Well said that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 40 minutes ago, Warnocchio said: A uniform no then! Think it shows that there isnt as much crossover in fanbase as i thought. Lots of incorrect assumptions though as you guys clearly aint bothered about cricket. First t20 blast is absolutely fxxking booming. attendance wise up 18% year on year. Headingley sold out twice last year 16,500. Lancs game sold out 2 months in advance. Tottenham are building a dual purpose stadium right now. Stands roll under the upper tiers. Its for NFL but the principles are the same. Cricket wickets can be dropped in these days for t20. You dont need a square. The new t20 city based will start with 8 yes and leeds will be in there but it will expand. And it will be comparable with ipl and big blast. As a previous poster said. The revenues make the stadium viable. Its all over in 3 hours. And you can drink watching the game. Even SAG cant stop that. Actually I am, and watch quite a bit of county cricket. However, I'm a bit of a traditionalist, only watching red ball cricket, and sadly the longer format is dying, there simply isn't enough support for it these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: Actually I am, and watch quite a bit of county cricket. However, I'm a bit of a traditionalist, only watching red ball cricket, and sadly the longer format is dying, there simply isn't enough support for it these days Funnily enough I agree too re the red ball. Tests or County. Ive been to 20 20 but not really for the cricket. I do think its here to stay though and the plan for City based games will bring in a lot of fans and it generates a lot of revenue through ground sales. Itll be a pity if such a big cricketing and sporting city as Sheffield has no venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Actually I am, and watch quite a bit of county cricket. However, I'm a bit of a traditionalist, only watching red ball cricket, and sadly the longer format is dying, there simply isn't enough support for it these days Don't you think some of the shot making that came to the fore in white ball cricket have enhanced the talents of batsmen by way of rotating the strike and keeping the scoreboard ticking instead of long periods of maidens and leg byes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aingarth Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Great idea and I support the sentiment - but it isn't practical. A cricket ground is basically an oval and has to be at least twice the area of a football pitch, ideally bigger. It is more difficult to combine football and cricket than it is football and athletics (Olympic stadium and West Ham). You end up with football supporters a very long way from the action. Anyone who went to Bramall Lane when it was dual purpose will know what a poor compromise it was - OK for the days when the crowd stood and sat on the grass but not for the modern era. Sheffield had its chance of both with Bramall Lane for cricket and Hillsborough for football; Bramall Lane had the potential to be far better than Headingly. But at the time, Sheffield United were doing well, Wednesday were in the doldrums so in no position to make a real input and the Yorkshire (or Leeds as in Look Leeds) Cricket Club wanted to snuff out Sheffield. In fact North and Central Yorkshire have run Yorkshire CC and ignored South Yorkshire for many years and it only changed quite recently with Michael Vaughan, Joe Root and the formation of the ECB South Yorkshire Premier League. So the opportunity was lost and the last first class cricket match was played in August 1973 at Bramall lane. A half hearted attempt to use the Collegiate ground didn't last long and won't happen again as houses were built on the top end of the pitch. If we wanted first class cricket and Test cricket back in Sheffield, it would need a dedicated stadium (which could combine with athletics). The last time we had anything near was the Don Valley stadium and I don't remember first class cricket ever being played there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 45 minutes ago, The Dukeries Owl said: Don't you think some of the shot making that came to the fore in white ball cricket have enhanced the talents of batsmen by way of rotating the strike and keeping the scoreboard ticking instead of long periods of maidens and leg byes? Yes I do, and I'd like to think there's room for both one day, and four day cricket Sadly, I don't think there is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 11 minutes ago, Andrew Robinson said: Great idea and I support the sentiment - but it isn't practical. A cricket ground is basically an oval and has to be at least twice the area of a football pitch, ideally bigger. It is more difficult to combine football and cricket than it is football and athletics (Olympic stadium and West Ham). You end up with football supporters a very long way from the action. Anyone who went to Bramall Lane when it was dual purpose will know what a poor compromise it was - OK for the days when the crowd stood and sat on the grass but not for the modern era. Sheffield had its chance of both with Bramall Lane for cricket and Hillsborough for football; Bramall Lane had the potential to be far better than Headingly. But at the time, Sheffield United were doing well, Wednesday were in the doldrums so in no position to make a real input and the Yorkshire (or Leeds as in Look Leeds) Cricket Club wanted to snuff out Sheffield. In fact North and Central Yorkshire have run Yorkshire CC and ignored South Yorkshire for many years and it only changed quite recently with Michael Vaughan, Joe Root and the formation of the ECB South Yorkshire Premier League. So the opportunity was lost and the last first class cricket match was played in August 1973 at Bramall lane. A half hearted attempt to use the Collegiate ground didn't last long and won't happen again as houses were built on the top end of the pitch. If we wanted first class cricket and Test cricket back in Sheffield, it would need a dedicated stadium (which could combine with athletics). The last time we had anything near was the Don Valley stadium and I don't remember first class cricket ever being played there. Agree re ignoring South Yorkshire but they did actually play at Abbeydale for quite a few years. I went several times bunking off school. It was the fastest pitch in the country and there was a memorable game vs West Indies where i think Wayne Daniel broke David Bairstows arm. Or maybe it was Middlesex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 35 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Actually I am, and watch quite a bit of county cricket. However, I'm a bit of a traditionalist, only watching red ball cricket, and sadly the longer format is dying, there simply isn't enough support for it these days Probably because some people have to work for a living Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 The OP gone for cover yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, Big Ron's Sovereign said: The OP gone for cover yet? That's "The Wall" himself isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal M Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, daztheowl said: I get the OPs idea of a multi event stadium , but certainly not cricket. The future is multi event stadia , such as the University of Phoenix Stadium , with rectractable pitch and roof, Hosts an average different event every 2 days , concerts , exhibitions and sporting events. What a proper stadium should be. Trouble is , who's got £400M spare. Much prefer Hillsborough at the mo , but we can dream. To be fair, Phoenix is the fastest growing metro area in the U.S. (about 5 million now) and is a huge destination for tourists, conferences, and winter snowbirds. It's also on the Superbowl rotation. Sheffield is not such a huge draw for tourists or conferences and its population (city and metro area) is closer in size to Colorado Springs or Tucson. Neither of which have a fancy 400 million stadium. Edited March 29, 2017 by Neal M I move a lot of concrete on the QVC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 6 hours ago, Dronfield Blue said: Best player I ever saw at Bramhall Lane was Geoff Boycott. Howzat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostowl Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Don Valley could easily have been adapted for this. Shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Lostowl said: Don Valley could easily have been adapted for this. Shame I was about to make the same point that Don Valley was used for some exhibition cricket games in the early 90's. Think a full Yorkshire team played but was not a competitive game. With drop in pitches I sure if still standing DVS could have been used for T20 with the fireworks and music. If SWFC had a new stadium even as a cricket fan I don't think you can have both at the same venue for obvious reasons. I think they do in Australia at the MCG have some 'Soccer' games but these are one offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Wherever you go, even to watch local cricket, the ground itself (i.e the playing area, not just the wicket) covers a large area , far larger than a soccer pitch.Don't forget that Leeds has its own cricket club, completely separate from Elland Road. Logistically, I don't think it would work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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