Lionel Fessi Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) 57 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: So, again something directed at me If you had told me on August 1st this would have been our recruitment, I would have said exactly the same thing and it has absolutely nothing to do with results -We've yet to address either fullback position -We've yet to address our physicality weakness in the midfield (Jones is halfway there in my opinion... and I'm also not a fan of necessarily always playing the 'midfield bruiser') -We've only half addressed the lack of pace issue (Buckley, really need one more with pace) -We've only half addressed the lack of winger issue (Again, Buckley is one of probably two we really needed) The signings we've made have been great, it's the signings we haven't made is the problem. Calling me pathetic for pointing out that we haven't strengthened in areas the majority thought we were weak in last season is, in itself, quite pathetic. Think we saw CC's answer to the no pace issue on Saturday. I would consider Joao to be fast, and I don't think Fletcher is 'slow' from what i've seen this season. By playing them together we have a good mix of pace, power and quality. Granted i only caught the extended highlights from Saturday game but I thought the signs were encouraging. Both are much more mobile than Hooper/Nuhiu who i think will struggle to start over the next few weeks. Agree think we need to sign a pacey winger though, i don't know if it would make us better but it gives us the option to play on the counter and opens other doors. Doesn't have to be somebody with great quality but if you look at Huddersfield for example, Van La Parra...average player but in a system that suits him and causes problems because he is fast, teams have to adjust to counter that. Nobody adjusts vs us because our attack can sometimes be one dimensional. However can't see us bringing in another winger unless Matias is out for a while or Buckley isn't what CC likes. RB position is only a problem when we are losing, Hunt/Palmer are scapegoated too much, nobody ever notices them when we win. I still have faith one of them will come good this season, but if we were to be promoted an upgrade would be needed. Signing another LB is inevitable too, anybody young and quick would be nice. Edited August 28, 2016 by Del_Liles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 2nd. Everybody prone to finding their feet at the moment. Meaning; other clubs & our players. We were one victory away in May & I'm convinced that was a stepping stone. The squad is stronger already, & may be even better by Thursday. It will click. DC has spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grez Bez Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 25th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 2 hours ago, StudentOwl said: So, again something directed at me If you had told me on August 1st this would have been our recruitment, I would have said exactly the same thing and it has absolutely nothing to do with results -We've yet to address either fullback position -We've yet to address our physicality weakness in the midfield (Jones is halfway there in my opinion... and I'm also not a fan of necessarily always playing the 'midfield bruiser') -We've only half addressed the lack of pace issue (Buckley, really need one more with pace) -We've only half addressed the lack of winger issue (Again, Buckley is one of probably two we really needed) The signings we've made have been great, it's the signings we haven't made is the problem. Calling me pathetic for pointing out that we haven't strengthened in areas the majority thought we were weak in last season is, in itself, quite pathetic. Give it a rest. Carlos has said he isn't looking for more physicality in midfield and I prefer to trust his judgement. Part of the reason our midfield has been poor is down to the fact that Bannan and Wallace have, in my opinion been poor. Weve signed a Czech international full back and we are looking for a back up, it's hardly a crisis position. RB I agree is an issue, but Liam Palmer is adequate. One solution is to turn our defense into beast mode and play hutch at RB with Lees and Loovens in the middle. RB is hutchs original position. We are looking for a left winger at the moment. We have hooper Joao Matias, FF, fletcher, Wallace, Abdi and Nuhiu. Remember we started last season with Nuhiu and an injured Matias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Thought we would start much better. Surprised and disappointed in the team selection so far. But assuming Carlos gets players into their best roles, still see us as top six, and every chance top two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 7 hours ago, Carbone said: We need Hutchinson back in the middle to give us some balls there, or a new physical defensive midfielder. Without that, outside top 6. If he plays there he will miss large chunks of the season through injury/indiscipline.. We were in a similar position this time last season before CC 'found a team' and got Hooper in scoring goals. Not yet convinced we can repeat this - as someone alluded to, we have made good signings but our actually recruitment hasn't been great. Still a few areas that haven't been addressed despite crying out for attention over the summer. We still have time but the clock is ticking..and its a tougher league than last season which isn't helping. Going for 9th and a clear out over the summer, with a new man at the helm for 17/18 not an impossibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls77 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 September is a massive month, all winnable games. By the end of it should give us an indication! If if we do not address our weak links (wingers and full backs) think we might just fall short! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys left peg Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Somewhere in the the top 10 I say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertOB Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 So far we have lost to Leeds, Burton and scraped a draw at Brenttord..................not looking good...............unless there is significant improvement we will be fighting relegation.....I hope not but on current form thats the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Ask me again at full time on the 26 Dec please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccentric owl Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 top 10 but regardless I will be happy. Only a few seasons ago the answers to this thread would have been "happy if we finish 20th" so I'm just strapped in & enjoying the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodger Wylde II Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 22nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Top 10 for sure and would be a good achievement to get into the playoffs again with what we have right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 5 hours ago, AlbertOB said: So far we have lost to Leeds, Burton and scraped a draw at Brenttord..................not looking good...............unless there is significant improvement we will be fighting relegation.....I hope not but on current form thats the truth Jesus wept. scraped a draw? We could and probably should have won at least 2 of the last three games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 2 hours ago, CrosbyKitchens said: Jesus wept. scraped a draw? We could and probably should have won at least 2 of the last three games. Fair point you make. Could easily have been two up at HT v Leeds and sat their waiting to trounce them in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilles De Bilde Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Well from what we have seen so far 19th as that is where we are at now. Big improvement needed to climb the table. At start of season was hoping for play off again or better, now hoping for top half of table at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenitoCarbone Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Based on what we have shown so far: 19th Based on our squads potential: 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Top ten is certainly not beyond us, with the squad we have now. Two or three top drawer signings this week, and who knows, maybe the play offs again. Perhaps it would be wrong to say that recruitment has been disappointing, it may be just a case that the bar has been raised, and that level of recruitment won't be enough to take us to the next level. Anyway, three days to go, so let's see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 More worried at this stage about the dynamic and togetherness of the team than actual results. We were a tight 'team' last year , and I'm concerned over the damage the Forestieri situation has done. I think 10th - 6th with a huge push after Jan transfer window closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeder Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Bannofan said: More worried at this stage about the dynamic and togetherness of the team than actual results. We were a tight 'team' last year , and I'm concerned over the damage the Forestieri situation has done. I think 10th - 6th with a huge push after Jan transfer window closes. I think this is the crux of it mate. Only time will tell I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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