SiJ Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Now the dust has settled. If all of this is about getting a move away...then get rid, but make sure whoever is signing him pays the absolute maximum. This whole "rotting in the reserves" thing just won't work in my opinion. We risk jeopardising squad harmony by keeping a disgruntled player on our books. If this is about getting a pay rise...then it really depends on what he and his agent are asking for. If it's some obscene amount (for us), then we have to stand firm. Sure we can offer him an improvement (salary wise and years), but we can't be seen to kowtow to a player who effectively threatened to down tools for the last fortnight. It would send the wrong message to the current playing staff and prospective new signings. If Fernando's gripe is that he wants to be brought in line with other top earners, then I think the club should be willing to listen and possibly agree a deal. In saying that he must make a full apology to the chairman, manager, his fellow players and the fans. What's most important is that this issue is addressed ASAP. The more it rumbles on, the worst it is likely to get. Fernando has played his hand (made himself look like a bellend in the process) and the club needs to get this sorted one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corneliusreeve Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Sonny said: Hopefully he'll apologise, play tomorrow night, score the winner and sign his new contract. Two out of three Sonny but no new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corneliusreeve Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 33 minutes ago, bigrbuk said: Dom Howson @domhowson 18m18 minutes ago Told Fernando Forestieri trained on his own yesterday. Will find out the latest on the situation from CC at lunch-time. #SWFC #starlive Wonder if that's what CC told FF to do, has the punishment began? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 34 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said: Really... who are these players? My bad, people not players. I'm still half asleep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlLuke Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Sonny said: Hopefully he'll apologise, play tomorrow night, score the winner and sign his new contract. All at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 What a bloody shame though. A player that I think it's fair to say is universally adored by the fanbase and then he goes and does this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, SiJ said: What a bloody shame though. A player that I think it's fair to say is universally adored by the fanbase and then he goes and does this. Sadly I wouldn't imagine he gives a poo . His new fans will like him - we'll boo him. Didn't bother Di Canio, Carbone, BFR etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since59owe Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 1 hour ago, bigrbuk said: Dom Howson @domhowson 18m18 minutes ago Told Fernando Forestieri trained on his own yesterday. Will find out the latest on the situation from CC at lunch-time. #SWFC #starlive Not good IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Just now, since59owe said: Not good IMHO Well he's hardly going to be welcomed back with open arms is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 1 minute ago, rickygoo said: Sadly I wouldn't imagine he gives a poo . His new fans will like him - we'll boo him. Didn't bother Di Canio, Carbone, BFR etc etc. I agree. Meant it more from a fans point of view. He's actions speak a lot louder than a nice interview in the Sheffield Star a few months ago. Money does funny things to people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDAZ Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) There are ways of trying to negotiate better terms on your contract. There are ways of trying to manufacture a move away. There are even ways of using interest & terms offered by other clubs (we all know it goes on) to negotiate with your current club. But to train all week, to be a part of the training sessions preparing for a big game away against Norwich, to be in the squad & probably starting and then drop it on the club, the manager & his teammates that he doesn't want to travel & play, just befor getting on the coach is absolutely disgusting behaviour. It's wrong and a complete disrespect to everyone, but mainly his teammates. If I was in that dressing room, I have a serious issue with that. If if we keep him & he comes back into the team and plays well, that's fine. If he leaves, it doesn't bother me. I know we'll get a good fee for him and I have complete trust in the football club in carrying on building a squad capable of getting promoted. I honestly couldn't care less what happens with Fernando now, I just hope whatever the outcome, it is dealt with quickly with minimum disruption to the squad that actually wants to play here and has respect for the club, the owner, the management team, the fans and more importantly their own team mates. Edited August 15, 2016 by BRADDAZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 31 minutes ago, OwlLuke said: All at the same time? Yep, then the stupid fücker can stick the pen firmly up his arśe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, BRADDAZ said: There are ways of trying to negotiate better terms on your contract. There are ways of trying to manufacture a move away. There are even ways of using interest & terms offered by other clubs (we all know it goes on) to negotiate with your current club. But to train all week, to be a part of the training sessions preparing for a big game away against Norwich, to be in the squad & probably starting and then drop it on the club, the manager & his teammates that he doesn't want to travel & play, just befor getting on the coach is absolutely disgusting behaviour. It's wrong and a complete disrespect to everyone, but mainly his teammates. If I was in that dressing room, I have a serious issue with that. If if we keep him & he comes back into the team and plays well, that's fine. If he leaves, it doesn't bother me. I know we'll get a good fee for him and I have complete trust in the football club in carrying on building a squad capable of getting promoted. I honestly couldn't care less what happens with Fernando now, I just hope whatever the outcome, it is dealt with quickly with minimum disruption to the squad that actually wants to play here and has respect for the club, the owner, the management team, the fans and more importantly their own team mates. Can't argue with any of that. The worst thing that can happen is this ends up being an even more protracted saga than it already is. Credit to the lads on Saturday for not allowing this little stunt to disrupt them. In saying that the more this gets dragged out; the more likely it is to cause issues within the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Thing is though, there doesn't appear to be any serious offers on the table for him, only the pathetic £7m bid from Derby. I think if FF is genuinely unhappy here we should move him on for the good of everyone, but without top money offered we could be stuck with an unhappy player, selling on the cheap is not an option to DC. I'm surprised no big bids have come in as things stand. This could drag on all the way until the end of the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshTheOwl Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Good post Braddaz, hit the nail on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I think the point people are missing is that the players want to be successful & they'll recognize they have a better chance with him in the side - fully motivated and engaged. he'll need to apologize and make up some ground - and sure - one or two might feel a bit put out, but good players want to play with good players The other point id make is the more successful we become, the bigger the egos and money become which means this is more likely to happen. this needs to be dealt with respectfully, professionally and decisively like i said in another thread, sell him or keep him - so long as Carlos maintains his authority, it doesn't really matter if Carlos becomes compromised, then we've got a much much bigger problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, RichieB said: Thing is though, there doesn't appear to be any serious offers on the table for him, only the pathetic £7m bid from Derby. I think if FF is genuinely unhappy here we should move him on for the good of everyone, but without top money offered we could be stuck with an unhappy player, selling on the cheap is not an option to DC. I'm surprised no big bids have come in as things stand. This could drag on all the way until the end of the window. Watch the Sky Sports interview with Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 1 minute ago, McRightSide said: Watch the Sky Sports interview with Carlos I have already seen it. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paolo Di Catio Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 33 minutes ago, since59owe said: Not good IMHO Pretty standard I would've thought. Let it sink in what he's done then in the office Monday morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls77 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Training on his own suggests this will not be resolved any time soon! Ride the window out, he will soon come back with his tail between his legs! I can not see him playing any part in the next 2 games at the very least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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