devonshire_owl Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 No medicals planned today as yet. Saxondale is ITK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Not bashing English players - bashing the English Football System. I for one want good quality English players to be developed so that we can be a force once again in the Champions League and at a national level. However, the league and development system at present does not allow for good English talent to progress in a way that will enable them to compete with our European neighbours such as Spain, Italy and Germany. In relation to Wednesday, I am willing to give foreign players ago because their quality is generally higher than those already in the English league, and they are a damn sight cheaper. There was a discussion on the radio the other day about this. What was said is that to buy decent home grown players you have to pay inflated fees along with inflated wages so abroad is getting more inviting for clubs. Also quite a bit about young players being paid far too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxondale Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Saxondale is ITK. Not at all mate, just did a bit of digging! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ellis Rimmer Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I was gonna say you need a bit of luck with the foreign signings like Southampton with Schneiderlin but then I looked him up and he cost them over 1M, and had only played for Strasbourg 5 times. O/T would go nuts if we made that signing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 The bottom line is a fanbase our opinions are so polarised it's untrue. Nuhiu's a decent player, No he's sh!te. Helan's got potential, don't talk b*ll*cks. Give Roeder a chance, he might just be good at what he's been brought here to do, F**k that, he's done s*d all wherever he's been. Just a selection of some of the opinions you get on here. That said this is a site where opinions are part and parcel of what makes this site the place it is. You're never going to get people to completely agree on one particular subject and that's perfectly understandable. My argument is there's never any common ground, no grey areas amidst the arguments. It's either good or bad, no in between and IMO this is why as a fanbase we'll always argue the to$$ and perhaps indirectly play a part in perhaps stopping the club realise it's full potential because we just aren't prepared to give certain players, certain managers/head coaches, certain club decisions/structures/committees a fair chance to perhaps prove some of us wrong or indeed right? Yep. Loads of binary thinking when in fact a middle ground is usually more accurate. Gets to the point when you can't be sceptical about something without being denounced as willing us to fail, or even worse, a pig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ellis Rimmer Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I am sure we could come up with a list of poor British based signings also but don't you worry we'll just focus on those you've listed there. In reality it all depends on the quality of the scouting. I am not sure how confident I am in Roeder but I will give the chap a chance because he has signed some decent players in his management career. We will just have to wait and see whether the players we sign can cut it in the English League. We're not exactly complaining about Loovens, Helan, Semedo, Melo, Nuhiu etc. are we not you ever been on this site before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonshire_owl Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 There was a discussion on the radio the other day about this. What was said is that to buy decent home grown players you have to pay inflated fees along with inflated wages so abroad is getting more inviting for clubs. Also quite a bit about young players being paid far too much Rumours that Chelsea youngsters are on £20k per week. Ridiculous money for a teenager to be paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 1. Tidman 2. Cobian 3. 4. Blondeau 5. 6. Pecnik 7. Esajas 8. Jonk 9. De Bilde 10. Olsen 11. Lekaj Let's raid the foreign market for more talent like this! There is a long list of attackers that coudl've been selected We've not done bad with defenders so maybe just stick to foreigners in defence? 1. Brad Jones 2. John Beswetherick 3. Guy Branston 4. Chris Carr 5. Dean Smith 6. Paul McClaren 7. Paul Smith 8. Terry Cooke 9. Adam Proudlock 10. Jon Shaw 11. Robbie Mustoe Let's raid the British market for more talent like this! I mean, if we've reduced this discussion to dumb lists and games then let's go all the way with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 I was gonna say you need a bit of luck with the foreign signings like Southampton with Schneiderlin but then I looked him up and he cost them over 1M, and had only played for Strasbourg 5 times. O/T would go nuts if we made that signing! But that's a good point, even young talent in France or Spain will cost you, fair enough, not as much as young England talent, but good players generally cost money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 1. Brad Jones 2. John Beswetherick 3. Guy Branston 4. Chris Carr 5. Dean Smith 6. Paul McClaren 7. Paul Smith 8. Terry Cooke 9. Adam Proudlock 10. Jon Shaw 11. Robbie Mustoe Let's raid the British market for more talent like this! I mean, if we've reduced this discussion to dumb lists and games then let's go all the way with it. Brad Jones is Australian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 1. Brad Jones 2. John Beswetherick 3. Guy Branston 4. Chris Carr 5. Dean Smith 6. Paul McClaren 7. Paul Smith 8. Terry Cooke 9. Adam Proudlock 10. Jon Shaw 11. Robbie Mustoe Let's raid the British market for more talent like this! I mean, if we've reduced this discussion to dumb lists and games then let's go all the way with it. I'd have had Stevie May instead of Jon Shaw, that's a better example Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Rumours that Chelsea youngsters are on £20k per week. Ridiculous money for a teenager to be paid. Not a rumour mate Jason Cundy was asked on Talksport a few weeks ago and he said most are on more than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ellis Rimmer Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 1. Brad Jones 2. John Beswetherick 3. Guy Branston 4. Chris Carr 5. Dean Smith 6. Paul McClaren 7. Paul Smith 8. Terry Cooke 9. Adam Proudlock 10. Jon Shaw 11. Robbie Mustoe Let's raid the British market for more talent like this! I mean, if we've reduced this discussion to dumb lists and games then let's go all the way with it. The thing is, most of the players we signed from abroad may have made that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Err we arent going to sign the best English or European talent as were Sheffield Wednesday who finished mid table in the Championship last season lets just trust the guys at the club to do there job as generally they will no better than us on Owlstalk. I know, take Watford out of consideration, the best foreign imports to this division have cost 1 million plus. Knockaert and Mahrez at Leicester just examples. You pay for quality at the end of the day, yeah you may pick up the odd bargain. But I highly doubt Lachman was signed for millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ellis Rimmer Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 It's not like Football manager where you can sign To Madeira for 10k and him be quality. If a foreign team has a decent player they'll want decent money for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlse Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 No medicals planned today as yet. Not knocking what you been told. The other guy said the deal and medical was already complete was only going to be announced today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Brad Jones is Australian. Signed from a British football club playing in the British league through the British transfer market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonshire_owl Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 (edited) I know, take Watford out of consideration, the best foreign imports to this division have cost 1 million plus. Knockaert and Mahrez at Leicester just examples. You pay for quality at the end of the day, yeah you may pick up the odd bargain. But I highly doubt Lachman was signed for millions. Fair comment. And this is where I hope that our Sporting Director by Committee are sensible and realise that whilst shopping abroad may be cheaper you still need to splash the cash to buy good quality. Let's hope they're not solely looking at players they find at the weekly Albufeira market. Edited June 26, 2015 by devonshire_owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItzzOwl Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 Penguin give us an update - this thread seems to be heading off track at an incredible speed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southportdc Posted June 26, 2015 Share Posted June 26, 2015 How many of them Watford lads had played in England before last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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