Bluesteel Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I do find it odd when people suggest showing more patience. We've had two years to sort out an experienced forward to supplement the young group we have. Let's not forget we were saying exactly the same things last year. We've had two years to find the money too. Havent found it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 We've had two years to find the money too. Havent found it yet. This isn't a money issue. Milan said Gray can sign another striker. He's had that privilege for some time now. Down to Gray to identify suitable available targets. As soon as anyone questions his search, people resort to the money jibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 We've had two years to find the money too. Havent found it yet. You can't say that. If you the club was really in for the players they've claimed to have lined up, you have to presume the money was there. Unless of course you believe it's all waffle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 This isn't a money issue. Milan said Gray can sign another striker. He's had that privilege for some time now. Down to Gray to identify suitable available targets. As soon as anyone questions his search, people resort to the money jibe. What are you on about? Course its a money issue. Unless Gray is happy to sign a league 1 standard striker who gets paid no more than 4k a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I am reasonably sure the money will/would be made available MM isn't a fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The apathy at board level at our clubs astounds me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I am reasonably sure the money will/would be made available MM isn't a fool The reason we got May is he would have been on relatively low wages. We can only seemingly afford unproven players or players that only the likes of rotherham are competing for. If pretty much anyone else is in for a striker we can assume they will go to the other club and not us. Money. Its all down to money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 What are you on about? Course its a money issue. A target getting injured is not a financial issue. A player wanting to fight for a first team place at his club is also not a financial issue. Gray said the player's manager wanted him to come here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 This isn't a money issue. Milan said Gray can sign another striker. He's had that privilege for some time now. Down to Gray to identify suitable available targets. As soon as anyone questions his search, people resort to the money jibe. All the best freebie strikers were snapped up in July We didn't sign any of those, because we can't compete with other Championship clubs (in the transfer market at least) Oh and Rovrum dunt count Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 A target getting injured is not a financial issue. A player wanting to fight for a first team place at his club is also not a financial issue. Gray said the player's manager wanted him to come here.. Ok. Was talking about the wider striker search and the fact we haven't had one of our own ( proven at this level) since Milan has been at the club. As far as loans are concerned, wages are perhaps less of an issue although i am not sure about how these contracts are sorted. Maybe some clubs insist on the loaning team to pay more wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 (edited) This isn't a money issue. Milan said Gray can sign another striker. He's had that privilege for some time now. Down to Gray to identify suitable available targets. As soon as anyone questions his search, people resort to the money jibe. Jibe? Eh?We have money for a loan yes (proceeds from a sale), which is why we are trying to sign players on loan. But to find a permanent, experienced striker who also has a decent record? We had to sell Antonio and OGrady to raise funds last time. Edited October 24, 2014 by Bluesteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The reason we got May is he would have been on relatively low wages. We can only seemingly afford unproven players or players that only the likes of rotherham are competing for. If pretty much anyone else is in for a striker we can assume they will go to the other club and not us. Money. Its all down to money. We can't compete with some of the wages Rotherham are paying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 You can't say that. If you the club was really in for the players they've claimed to have lined up, you have to presume the money was there. Unless of course you believe it's all waffle? You werent referring to loans though where you? You said weve had 2 years to sort the issue. Weve sorted the issue temporarily for spells with loans but never permanently. We dont seem to have the funds available to us to sort this issue permanently, unless we sell players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Jibe? Eh?We have money for a loan yes (proceeds from a sale), which is why we are trying to sign players on loan. But to find a permanent, experienced striker who also has a decent record? We had to sell Antonio and OGrady to raise funds last time. The money was there to sign an experienced striker; we went down the Stevie May route instead - not knocking that, because I believe in the long term he will come good. In the meantime, that experience needs to come in the form of loans - and we know the money is there for that purpose because Gray has the go ahead. So the finances don't really need to be brought into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The money was there to sign an experienced striker; we went down the Stevie May route instead - not knocking that, because I believe in the long term he will come good. In the meantime, that experience needs to come in the form of loans - and we know the money is there for that purpose because Gray has the go ahead. So the finances don't really need to be brought into this. They do when it's being said we've had 2 years to sort it. We've been in the same situation relying on loans. For the amount we paid for may and his wages we probably couldn't have afforded someone who is both experienced and guaranteed to get you goals. I'm not disagreeing that we don't have money for loans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhollywood Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 MM came very very close to selling us, that process of finding suitable buyers will still be ongoing. Regardless of our good start he's not going to spend to get us up. Our good start just means that if anything he won't have to spend to move us away from the bottom, he will only spend when he has to. Accept the fact we have a thin squad and have a chairman whose first priority is to sell the club, not to buy players to push us up the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_orme Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Said by whom? By warnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 By warnock Any links to quotes or articles? I couldn't find anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 well i would rather us wait for the right people than just sign SOMEONE to please people. Some people seem to be addicted to player signings and get withdrawal symptoms if there aren't any for two or three weeks. For example, whilst it was widely accepted that Dave Jones brought in too many players when we were promoted from League One (typically, only in hindsight as most had been gushing whilst it was actually going on), guess what the proposed solution was when we down at the bottom of the table? Yep... sign some more. Is this the 'Football Manager' culture taking effect where the financial and other consequences are purely virtual rather than real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notts0wl Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 This isn't a money issue. Milan said Gray can sign another striker. He's had that privilege for some time now. Down to Gray to identify suitable available targets. As soon as anyone questions his search, people resort to the money jibe. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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