scram Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 As predicted when most were w*nking themselves over the ESL being defeated It ain't going away - and the same clubs in our league who were mocked and ridiculed will be straight back on that gravy train I said at the time those clubs will be better off for this - and they will one way or another https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european-super-league-uefa-european-court-of-justice-real-madrid-juventus-b1894004.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I'm not in agreement with the ESL at all, but this has been referred to the ECJ. What is to stop these clubs re registering outside of the EU where the ECJ has no jurisdiction? A ESL run in the UK? Is that a possibility? Or further afield, Saudi etc? European football is big box office, the real money is in the TV rights. A backward step if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 I love the ESL tbf If ever a bunch of archaic governors of a sport needed a hand grenade rolling into it then it's in football At all levels from world down to local Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 The game will end up destroying itself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 If it hasn't already. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Be interesting to see what the fans of these clubs do; particularly Juve. Barca and Real fans were pretty quiet previously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beighton Owl 87 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 They can have a nice little round robin tournament amongst themselves. I'm sure it'll be reyt good. Just means there's a better chance for Bayern, PSG and English teams to win the trophy that actually means something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 fizz them. As long as they aren't allowed to also compete in proper football, they can do what they want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 The cat is out of the bag on what these clubs plan and want. I’ve said all along the celebratory attitude towards “beating” the prior ESL plans was tone deaf and naive. Let them go ahead and we’ll restructure what’s left. They can start after next years World Cup in November.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 To be fair, at least Madrid, Juve and Barca are being honest about it and not disingenuous like the English clubs "ooh we didn't know it would be controversial sorry" - yeh right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Tbh, I hope they keep plugging away at it. Will be helpful in holding people's feet to the fire in terms of getting some proper actual meaningful reform in football. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 15 hours ago, SiJ said: The game will end up destroying itself. I don’t think it will It’ll destroy the pyramid in this country and a few clubs along the way, but it’s a world game now, and as long as people here and in the Far East and everywhere in between keep paying their tv subscriptions then we’ll just end up with an NFL style system which many of the younger generation will love 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lt109 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Django said: I don’t think it will It’ll destroy the pyramid in this country and a few clubs along the way, but it’s a world game now, and as long as people here and in the Far East and everywhere in between keep paying their tv subscriptions then we’ll just end up with an NFL style system which many of the younger generation will love I think you're bang on unfortunately, tv money trumps everything, the powefull clubs I'm sure would prefer an NFL style system so it will happen in my opinion. PS I don't have any tv subscriptions I don't watch football on telly not even us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Django said: I don’t think it will It’ll destroy the pyramid in this country and a few clubs along the way, but it’s a world game now, and as long as people here and in the Far East and everywhere in between keep paying their tv subscriptions then we’ll just end up with an NFL style system which many of the younger generation will love Agreed. I watch and like the NFL so it almost seems a little hypocritical to hate the idea of football going for the same thing. But I think their league system is fantastic. The way it’s built to facilitate competitiveness, handles trades and new players entering the league etc, keeps even the bad teams relevant and still able to realistically dream of success.. it’s a just a good league set up. They know what they’re doing over there with it. Im not sure today’s younger and newer breed of fans give a poo about clubs outside of the elite sphere anyway, so football ending up with a league system comprised ONLY of those clubs seems a logical end point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 19 hours ago, scram said: As predicted when most were w*nking themselves over the ESL being defeated It ain't going away - and the same clubs in our league who were mocked and ridiculed will be straight back on that gravy train I said at the time those clubs will be better off for this - and they will one way or another https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european-super-league-uefa-european-court-of-justice-real-madrid-juventus-b1894004.html Only a matter of time really, it's not going to go away this. They won the battle last time, but they will lose the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, sheffield_dave said: Agreed. I watch and like the NFL so it almost seems a little hypocritical to hate the idea of football going for the same thing. But I think their league system is fantastic. The way it’s built to facilitate competitiveness, handles trades and new players entering the league etc, keeps even the bad teams relevant and still able to realistically dream of success.. it’s a just a good league set up. They know what they’re doing over there with it. Im not sure today’s younger and newer breed of fans give a poo about clubs outside of the elite sphere anyway, so football ending up with a league system comprised ONLY of those clubs seems a logical end point. The vast majority of adults with an affinity to a club in this country will no doubt despise the idea, but kids and teenagers will be all over it and unfortunately in 30 years time it’ll be a case of “Sheffield Wednesday who are they?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Nah. This is the opportunity to take football back. Let the plastic TV fans have their superleague if they want. It'll be easy enough for the rest of us to ignore, just like it is easy to completely ignore the Champions League and Premiership circus at the moment. We just need to make sure there is no interaction whatsoever between football and the new FranchiseBall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flo Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Django said: The vast majority of adults with an affinity to a club in this country will no doubt despise the idea, but kids and teenagers will be all over it and unfortunately in 30 years time it’ll be a case of “Sheffield Wednesday who are they?” Nah ESL is done for adults. kids dont pay to watch football so there is no money in them they just illegally stream it cause they are good at tech and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Django said: unfortunately in 30 years time it’ll be a case of “Sheffield Wednesday who are they?” I think we are already at that point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 hours ago, sheffield_dave said: Agreed. I watch and like the NFL so it almost seems a little hypocritical to hate the idea of football going for the same thing. But I think their league system is fantastic. The way it’s built to facilitate competitiveness, handles trades and new players entering the league etc, keeps even the bad teams relevant and still able to realistically dream of success.. it’s a just a good league set up. They know what they’re doing over there with it. Im not sure today’s younger and newer breed of fans give a poo about clubs outside of the elite sphere anyway, so football ending up with a league system comprised ONLY of those clubs seems a logical end point. Ironically i could see that being more akin to the ESL More of a closed shop - the money distribution will be huge and give each team every advantage So it will come down to how the finances are managed and clubs set up There will be little in the way of outright advantage to dominate because all the clubs will have a huge draw and all be ridiculously wealthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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