Well done Dejphon Chansiri

[Dick_Turpin]

1 minute ago, Morepork said:

 

I want to see us be hard to beat, if that meant winning games by small margins I'd live with it, certainly over the next season or two. It feels like too much to ask to be entertaining and stay up.......which it shouldn't be of course. 

 

And I'm sick of it. That's football to enjoy via newspaper reports not trailing round on a three hour round trip and sitting in the cold getting bored. 

[Dick_Turpin]

But I acknowledge that is probably a minority view. 

[Dick_Turpin]

6 minutes ago, Morepork said:

 

Surely that will be the outcome for any manager that plays dire football and loses? Or are you just suggesting he's bad? Which looking at his more recent win ratio from his last three appointments looks like he'll be giving GM and JL a run for their money..... I must admit, I thought his record was more robust than that but you have to go back several years to see it pick up.

 

Did anyone hang on to Garry's number......

It was interesting when it talked about him having very little goodwill when he arrived. And how unapologetic he is about how his teams play. He is what he is. 

[Morepork]

1 minute ago, rickygoo said:

It was interesting when it talked about him having very little goodwill when he arrived. And how unapologetic he is about how his teams play. He is what he is. 

 

The reality for him is he'd have very little goodwill wherever he went........The only positive you could paint about him in that regard is he's not pretending to be anything else.

 

Thoughts on Ryan Lowe? Did you watch that short doco I posted in his thread?

[Costello 77]

Since Chansiri our teams have been too weak.

You need players who are nasty winners like Hull that year or players that run their nads off until the final whistle like Huddersfield that year.

High fiving and team fist bumping is what losers do when not much is expected of them.

 

[Dick_Turpin]

6 minutes ago, Morepork said:

 

The reality for him is he'd have very little goodwill wherever he went........The only positive you could paint about him in that regard is he's not pretending to be anything else.

 

Thoughts on Ryan Lowe? Did you watch that short doco I posted in his thread?

No will have a look tomorrow. I'm hoping for a sleep not haunted by a man in a baseball cap. I like what little I've heard about him. 

[edmontonowl]

3 hours ago, S36 OWL said:

 

Comfortable in mid table with a squad that cost nothing, never breached FFP, never had points deducted, had "real sponsors" not shell companies, hadn't sold the stadium, had a good solid POTD support, had reasonable ticket prices, need i go on.? 

 

 

Bloody Romans  Thai-blokes. What have they done  for us

 

[Wor’Jackie]

For what it’s worth, I’d like Paul Cook. Pulis will probably do a job short term but I get the sense it’ll be costly short term fix. Cook won’t necessarily be prettier to watch but it would feel like a 3-4 year project with a guy who does have a decent championship record, gets a lot out of the resources he has, and did amazingly well under impossible circumstances last season.

[Athelwulf]

2 hours ago, rickygoo said:

And I'm sick of it. That's football to enjoy via newspaper reports not trailing round on a three hour round trip and sitting in the cold getting bored. 

 

I understand that, I really do.

 

People on this site seem to fall into two categories.

 

The first think that the appalling run of results we've had is down to Monk, and that there's a mid-table team in there waiting to get out.

 

These people don't fear a manager who'd attempt to entertain because they still think we'd cheat the drop.

 

However, the second (of which I am a member) believe that this run is largely due to the fact that we're a very poor side now, shorn of its quality.

 

IMO Monk - like most managers - could do little with what's on the pitch, and that to stay up a specialist is required.

 

Pulis, like Colin and Six Fingers, fits into that category.

[Blue and white]

10 hours ago, mattitheowl said:

 

Just remind us how well we were doing when he took over?

Year upon year progress under MM.

[kingsidney]

He should have gone after last season. 
 

this was always going to happen. 

[The Night-Owl]

DC's completely bonkers and clueless. We're a laughing stock basket case of a club. It's going to be another disaster and it won't be long till we're in a similar dire state scrambling around for another new manager. It's utterly depressing being a Wednesday fan. 

[areNOTwhatTHEYseem]

The more I think about it, the more I realise how utterly bonkers this thread is!

 

It's a bit like slapping the captain of the Titanic on the back and saying, 'Well done for bailing out those few bucketfuls of water. We can't ask for anything more in our current predicament, can we?'

 

[Guest Grandad]

I'm not thrilled at the prospect of Pulis football

 

But it's so important that we retain our status in this division, with a God-awful squad of freebies and loans put together this summer as a result of our FFP problems

 

Pulis can, and I'm very sure will, do that.

 

Let's hope that by August next year someone else is building our squad, and pray that he's doing it for a different Owner

Edited November 12, 2020 by Grandad

[areNOTwhatTHEYseem]

'So you've hit an iceberg and doomed us all to certain death, but at least you've learned from your mistakes. Just make sure you don't do it again, eh?'

[Guest Grandad]

1 minute ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said:

'So you've hit an iceberg and doomed us all to certain death, but at least you've learned from your mistakes. Just make sure you don't do it again, eh?'

 

Ive always said "Credit where its due".

 

Its the same with criticism.

 

You can't continually criticise without acknowledging good decisions. The fact that I appear to be continually critical is a reflection of the lack of good decisions we see

[Guest]

Nowt like giving a bloke a chance is there 

[areNOTwhatTHEYseem]

Just now, Grandad said:

Ive always said "Credit where its due".

 

Its the same with criticism.

 

You can't continually criticise without acknowledging good decisions. The fact that I appear to be continually critical is a reflection of the lack of good decisions we see

 

Which is fair enough, but when I saw a thread entitled 'Well done Dejphon Chansiri', I assumed it was tongue in cheek!

 

I'm yet to be convinced one way or the other regarding the prospective appointment of Pulis, but even if we accept it as a positive move, it still has to be seen in its wider context.

 

The primary reason that our Championship status is at risk is Chansiri. The primary reason we have, as you so eloquently put it, 'a God-awful squad of freebies and loans put together this summer as a result of our FFP problems', is Chansiri. The primary reason that Tony Pulis now apparently seems like the saviour of our football club is Chansiri.

 

I'm not one for over-the-top criticism, but I'm struggling to find it in myself to say 'well done' to the man who created this unholy mess because he's apparently made one decision which might nudge us back away from the precipice he has us careering towards in the first place.

[ashley8]

My concern is we have been moving towards Pulis for the last few years. Don't kid yourself if he comes in it will be only till end of the season. Bigger picture it looks like Mr Chansiri has no desire for us to play attractive football and now with most of his managerial choices it's poo football he's after. 

With a decent manager we can easily get safe this season. We have played some shocking sides so far. With a better manager we would have won more. Don't panic and get in a man who will make it more depressing to watch Wednesday than it already is !!! 

[matthefish2002]

I am not happy about Pulis but wish him good luck.
If the plan is to stay up and get someone else next season in in close season to try and build and play a bit more entertaining stuff than I can live with it.

Will say though that is is likely we will stay up with Pulis as manager but no guarantee, the squad is very weak.